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From: Rene Rebe <rene@exactcode.de>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.21-rc5: Thinkpad X60 gets critical thermal shutdowns
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:35:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704021035.40672.rene@exactcode.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8393D4C0-57C5-4CD2-8CA4-E4241E74FB4E@mac.com>

On Sunday 01 April 2007 20:57:57 Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2007, at 02:36:08, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> > When I run 2.6.21-rc5 + Andi's x86 patches + paravirt_ops patches,  
> > I've been getting my machine shut down with critical thermal  
> > shutdown messages:
> >
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: ACPI: Critical trip point
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (128  
> > C), shutting down.
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (128  
> > C), shutting down.
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost shutdown[19417]: shutting down for system  
> > halt
> >
> > and the machine does feel pretty hot.  Interestingly, when the  
> > machine reboots, the fan spins up to a noticeably higher speed, so  
> > it seems that maybe something is getting fan speed control wrong.
> 
> Well, 128C is more than hot enough to boil water and well above the  
> thermal tolerances of most CPUs, so I would imagine that were your  
> CPU actually that hot it wouldn't be capable of printing the  
> "Critical temperature reached" messages, let alone properly rebooting.

IIRC a MSI Megabook S270 (I formerly owned) BIOS notifies this
"Critical temperature reached (128C)" when the battery run empty
when the OS did no action due to battery low indications. I guess
the BIOS people thought this is a good last resort to let the OS
really shutdown before the box just turns off.

Yours,

-- 
  René Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin
  http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name
  +49 (0)30 / 255 897 45
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From: Rene Rebe <rene@exactcode.de>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.21-rc5: Thinkpad X60 gets critical thermal shutdowns
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:35:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704021035.40672.rene@exactcode.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8393D4C0-57C5-4CD2-8CA4-E4241E74FB4E@mac.com>

On Sunday 01 April 2007 20:57:57 Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2007, at 02:36:08, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> > When I run 2.6.21-rc5 + Andi's x86 patches + paravirt_ops patches,  
> > I've been getting my machine shut down with critical thermal  
> > shutdown messages:
> >
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: ACPI: Critical trip point
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (128  
> > C), shutting down.
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost kernel: Critical temperature reached (128  
> > C), shutting down.
> > Mar 30 23:19:03 localhost shutdown[19417]: shutting down for system  
> > halt
> >
> > and the machine does feel pretty hot.  Interestingly, when the  
> > machine reboots, the fan spins up to a noticeably higher speed, so  
> > it seems that maybe something is getting fan speed control wrong.
> 
> Well, 128C is more than hot enough to boil water and well above the  
> thermal tolerances of most CPUs, so I would imagine that were your  
> CPU actually that hot it wouldn't be capable of printing the  
> "Critical temperature reached" messages, let alone properly rebooting.

IIRC a MSI Megabook S270 (I formerly owned) BIOS notifies this
"Critical temperature reached (128C)" when the battery run empty
when the OS did no action due to battery low indications. I guess
the BIOS people thought this is a good last resort to let the OS
really shutdown before the box just turns off.

Yours,

-- 
  René Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin
  http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name
  +49 (0)30 / 255 897 45

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-02  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-31  6:36 2.6.21-rc5: Thinkpad X60 gets critical thermal shutdowns Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-31  9:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-01 16:30   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-01 22:44     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found] ` <8f8ff01d0703310033y74421cfcl747ece1be003471@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01  6:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-01 14:53     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-01 16:32     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-01 22:46       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-01 23:19     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02  2:38       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-02  4:53         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 12:34           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-03 18:35             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 21:25               ` RusH
2007-04-04  3:46               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-01 18:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-01 21:13   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-02  8:35   ` Rene Rebe [this message]
2007-04-02  8:35     ` Rene Rebe
2007-04-08 19:09     ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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