From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 21:05:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070405190522.GA22092@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704060208.47327.kernel@kolivas.org>
* Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> Nice -10 on mainline ruins the latency of nice 0 tasks unlike SD. New
> scheduling class just for X? Sounds like a very complicated
> userspace-changing way to just do the equivalent of "nice -n -10"
> obfuscated.
i think you are missing the point. We _do not know in advance_ whether X
should be prioritized or not. It's the behavior of X that determines it.
When X is reniced to -10 it fixes a few corner cases, but it breaks many
other cases. We found that out time and time again.
btw., the tests i've done were not with X but using a shell prompt.
> > re-testing the weak points of SD:
> >
> > - hackbench: still unusable under such type of high load - no
> > improvement.
>
> Load of 160. Is proportional slowdown bad?
this is relative to how mainline+Mike's handles it. Users wont really
care about the why's, they'll only see the slowdown.
> > - make -j: still less interactive than Mike's - no improvement.
>
> Depends on how big your job number vs cpu is. The better the
> throttling gets with mainline the better SD gets in this comparison.
> At equal fairness mainline does not have the low latency interactivity
> SD has.
i often run make jobs with -j200 or larger, and SD gets worse than even
mainline much sooner than that.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-05 19:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01 6:40 ` Prakash Punnoor
[not found] ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03 ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29 5:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 8:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55 ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03 2:35 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 2:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 5:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 6:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54 ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-04-05 20:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 1:03 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 9:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 9:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 6:50 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 4:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 5:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:16 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 8:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 4:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 19:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-07 16:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 5:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48 ` [ck] " Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-22 11:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-10 2:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57 ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
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