From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
virtualization@lists.osdl.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: The virtuailization patches break Voyager.
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:37:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704281137.52460.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1k5vwg8qy.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Saturday 28 April 2007 11:15:33 Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> writes:
>
> > On Saturday 28 April 2007 09:52:30 Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> Well, not really. The problem with the subarch mechanism is that it
> >> promotes a lot of copied code with small modifications, and so making
> >> changes is the inherently non-general activity of trying to find all the
> >> various copies, work out what subtle differences they have, and try to
> >> make the appropriate changes in each case. This was one of the major
> >> objections to the original Xen-as-subarch patches, and it is the problem
> >> with Voyager. The mass of preprocessor tricks doesn't help either.
> >
> > Yes I agree. Current i386 subarch is a mess and I hope to slowly phase
> > it out. mach-{es7000,summit} should just be folded into mach-generic
> > always (like x86-64) and I'm somewhat hoping that mach-voyager and
> > perhaps mach-visws too will just go away at some point.
>
> There is a possibility, that arch/i386 will seen renewed life as an
> embedded architecture. At which point things like mach-visws may
> start proliferating.
Scary thought. But I don't see why people using embedded x86s should suddenly
design new interrupt controllers etc. - after all the main value of using x86s
embedded is some degree of compatibility to PC software. Ok, we'll see what
happens.
> So I think it makes a lot of sense to see if we can fold mach-visws
> and mach-voyager into appropriate pluggable interfaces.
For voyager and NUMAQ i think it's fine to just wait until the last machine dies
(James, how many do you have left? @] iirc the number of NUMAQs still in operation
is also slowly decreasing)
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-28 9:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-28 6:40 The virtuailization patches break Voyager Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 6:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-28 7:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 7:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-28 8:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 8:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-28 9:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 16:05 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-28 17:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 8:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 9:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-28 9:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-28 9:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 9:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-28 9:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 9:37 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-04-28 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 16:08 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-28 15:54 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-28 17:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-28 17:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 17:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-28 15:47 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-28 16:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-28 16:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-28 16:20 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-28 17:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-28 17:22 ` Andi Kleen
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