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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Freezer: Read PF_BORROWED_MM in a nonracy way
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 02:01:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705120201.42619.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705111625300.3986@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:29, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 12 May 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > We use this function (ie. kernel/power/process.c:is_user_space()) to
> > distinguish kernel threads from user space processes.  Therefore we make it
> > always return true for user space processes and always return false for kernel
> > threads.  In the latter case we need to use the task_lock() to ensure that the
> > result is as desired (ie. false), because otherwise it might be racing with
> > either fs/aio.c:use_mm() or fs/aio.c:unuse_mm().
> 
> But there is no race protection in the *caller*, so if it can ever return 
> one or the other, what protects it from changing once the caller returns?
> 
> And if the value can change (because some thread uses "use_mm()"), then 
> the caller cannot rely on the value that got returned.

The value cannot change because of that.  There only is a small window inside
unuse_mm() (or use_mm()) in which the value may be wrong.  Namely:

static void unuse_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
{
	struct task_struct *tsk = current;

	task_lock(tsk);
	tsk->flags &= ~PF_BORROWED_MM;
---
--- If is_user_space() without the task_lock() is called right here, it will
--- return 'true', although it should return 'false'.
---
	tsk->mm = NULL;
	/* active_mm is still 'mm' */
	enter_lazy_tlb(mm, tsk);
	task_unlock(tsk);
}

IOW, quoting Andrew, "is_user_space() requires that the state of p->mm and
p->flags be consistent".

> So you migt as well not return any value at all, since the returned value 
> is apparently meaningless once the lock has been released.

No, it is not meaningless.

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-11 23:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-10 22:35 [PATCH 0/7] Freezer bugfixes Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] Freezer: Read PF_BORROWED_MM in a nonracy way Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-11 19:39   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-11 20:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-11 20:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-11 22:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-11 23:20         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-11 23:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-11 23:48             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  0:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  0:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12  0:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  1:01                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  1:24                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12  9:01                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 10:45                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 14:18                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 16:35                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 16:58                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 17:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 17:43                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  1:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-11 23:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-11 23:25           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-12  0:16             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-11 23:29           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12  0:01             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-05-12  8:16               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-12  9:27                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 10:13                   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-12 10:41                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 10:52                       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-12 11:34                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 14:25                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12 14:59                     ` migrate_dead_tasks() vs sleep-after-exit_notify() problems? Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-10 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/7] Freezer: Close potential race between refrigerator and thaw_tasks Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] Freezer: Fix vfork problem Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:39 ` [PATCH 4/7] Freezer: Take kernel_execve into consideration Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:41 ` [PATCH 5/7] Freezer: Fix kthread_create vs freezer theoretical race Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:43 ` [PATCH 6/7] Freezer: Fix PF_NOFREEZE vs freezeable race Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-10 22:44 ` [PATCH 7/7] Freezer: Move frozen_process to kernel/power/process.c Rafael J. Wysocki

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