From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>,
david@lang.hm, schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux Kernel include files
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:00:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070622150038.GN23017@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1182483527.10524.31.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:38:47AM +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 01:38 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > The main problems are not really hard to fix......
> >
> > - Most problems eem to be related to the fact that Linux does not
> > use C-99 based types in the kernel and the related type definitions
> > are not written in plain C. This is something that should be fixed
> > with a source consolidation program or by defining aliases to
> > C-99 types in case the compiler is not GCC.
>
>
> The argument has been made that the standard C99 types are _optional_,
> and anything included from a C library's headers without _explicitly_
> being included by the user shouldn't define those types.
>
> Personally, I think that's a load of bollocks. And it certainly doesn't
> apply to Linux-specific files like <linux/cdrom.h>, which are perfectly
> entitled to use a C standard from last millennium, regardless of
> namespace 'pollution' issues. That's why we continue to use the crappy
> __u32 types. Can you be more specific about why this is a problem? Don't
> we mostly define those crappy types using arch-specific knowledge, as
> 'int', 'long', etc?
>...
It would certainly help if Joerg would tell what exactly breaks, but I
spot one likely problem in include/asm-i386/types.h:
#if defined(__GNUC__) && !defined(__STRICT_ANSI__)
typedef __signed__ long long __s64;
typedef unsigned long long __u64;
#endif
It might make sense to remove the #if and simply require that
a C compiler under Linux must know about the C99 "long long"?
> dwmw2
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-22 15:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-21 22:32 Linux Kernel include files Joerg Schilling
2007-06-21 23:25 ` david
2007-06-21 23:38 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-22 3:38 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-22 5:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-22 15:00 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-06-26 15:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-27 1:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-27 15:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 15:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-27 15:59 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-06-27 17:32 ` Userspace compiler support of "long long" Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 22:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-27 22:57 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-27 23:16 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-28 2:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-28 6:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-28 11:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-28 11:36 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-28 12:20 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-28 3:06 ` Kyle McMartin
2007-06-28 0:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-28 11:42 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-28 3:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-28 11:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-28 12:08 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-06-28 12:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-28 4:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-28 10:26 ` Harald Arnesen
2007-06-28 10:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-28 12:11 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-28 15:31 ` Mark Brown
2007-06-28 4:02 ` Linux Kernel include files H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-25 15:17 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-25 15:27 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-25 18:04 ` Harald Arnesen
2007-06-25 20:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-25 20:32 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-25 21:43 ` Harald Arnesen
2007-06-25 21:48 ` Harald Arnesen
2007-06-25 21:49 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-25 22:30 ` Harald Arnesen
2007-06-25 22:42 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-21 23:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-25 15:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-25 16:00 ` david
2007-06-25 14:48 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-21 23:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25 14:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-25 15:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-25 15:27 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-06-25 20:18 ` Sam Ravnborg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-27 13:45 Joerg Schilling
2007-06-27 22:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-27 13:58 Joerg Schilling
2007-06-27 16:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-27 16:41 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-27 18:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-27 17:18 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-28 10:47 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-28 13:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-29 12:59 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-27 14:00 Joerg Schilling
2007-06-27 16:04 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-28 10:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-28 10:37 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-28 10:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2007-06-28 10:57 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-06-28 16:15 ` Jan Engelhardt
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2007-06-27 22:35 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-06-27 23:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2007-07-01 9:47 ` Bodo Eggert
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