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From: Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, bunk@stusta.de, nix@esperi.org.uk,
	galibert@pobox.com, tiwai@suse.de, kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:46:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707011346.52872.mista.tapas@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1I4J76-0003MW-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Friday 29 June 2007, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > Not as if it would be hard to add ioctl support to fuse.  What fuse
> > > > can't handle is the data argument of ioctl(), so the most it could do
> > > > is give the filesystem a pid (tid) and a virtual address.  The
> > > > userspace fs could then get/put the data through /proc/<pid>/mem.
> > >
> > > Hork...
> > >
> > > Identify the generic ioctls that are relevant to a FUSE file system and
> > > have real meaning *and* are useful.
> >
> > I don't think there are any such.
> >
> > The point in this thread was I think about emulating an OSS sound
> > device through a fuse fs.  In that case fuse would need _generic_
> > ioctl support, which simply can't be done without weird userspace
> > hacks.
>
> Well, had a look at what FUSD does.  It assumes that the ioctl
> argument is stuctured according to the command.  If all OSS ioctls are
> like that, then fine, fuse can support it properly.
>
> The drawback of this is that ioctls which aren't structured properly
> could cause weird failures due to wrong data being accessed by the
> poor unknowing kernel.
>
> Miklos

Included with the docs there's a list of the OSS ioctls. I don't understand 
enough of the problem to judge whether they are suitable to be handled by 
FUSE:

http://manuals.opensound.com/developer/ioctl.html [version 4]
http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/oss.pdf [version 3]

I don't know which API version is supposed to be supported though.

Regards,
Flo

-- 
Palimm Palimm!
http://tapas.affenbande.org

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-01 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32         ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57     ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 22:43       ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44       ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48         ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13           ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25  3:41         ` Nobin Mathew
2007-06-25  9:06           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09               ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26  9:18                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25  9:51       ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47                 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50                   ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44               ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20                   ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30                   ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 20:20                       ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-28 21:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37                       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24                       ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52                       ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49                           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46                                 ` Florian Schmidt [this message]
2007-07-01 12:17                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49                 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01             ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05                 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21             ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  6:24     ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25  6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18   ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25       ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11           ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26  9:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31       ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04  6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-05 12:59     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
     [not found] <fa.4npeXBdRGMm2JoKWe0qhjQdrJkk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.bAhr1dmoWCFU+8Kxo95nsy5DRRU@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.MQ77mllForge5OWcDydLlI0yp8s@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-24 19:37     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27  3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02     ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10   ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  0:18       ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  1:58         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  2:28           ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:04           ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  3:22             ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28  5:13             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58               ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34   ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30     ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40       ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38         ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
     [not found] <fa.C+RaPJT9DzfOowG03yiRkB6ItF8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.eZW1VxypFFwQqmC93xQaStxDK0Q@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29  1:16     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04       ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07  2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood

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