From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:22:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46841873.7040906@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468413D2.60101@gmail.com>
Rene Herman wrote:
> Anyways, I suspect at least Takashi Iwai would simply say "no" to
> removing or deprecating the in kernel emulation anyway, although it's
> not likely to grow features anymore.
Even if he fails to say "no" in such a case, many other people would
stand up and do so :) In Linux we generally do not want to remove
binary userspace interfaces. Breaking (i.e. changing) the in-kernel API
is fine, but breaking the userspace ABI is quite another matter.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-28 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 22:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25 3:41 ` Nobin Mathew
2007-06-25 9:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09 ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26 9:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 9:51 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30 ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 20:20 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-06-28 21:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24 ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-07-01 12:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 6:24 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 9:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31 ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04 6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-05 12:59 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
[not found] <fa.4npeXBdRGMm2JoKWe0qhjQdrJkk@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.bAhr1dmoWCFU+8Kxo95nsy5DRRU@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.MQ77mllForge5OWcDydLlI0yp8s@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-24 19:37 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27 3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02 ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10 ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 0:18 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 1:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 2:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:04 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 3:22 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 5:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58 ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
[not found] <fa.C+RaPJT9DzfOowG03yiRkB6ItF8@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.eZW1VxypFFwQqmC93xQaStxDK0Q@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29 1:16 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07 2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood
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