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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Jonathan Campbell <jon@nerdgrounds.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:05:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070715230524.GL3565@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469A8AED.7070207@nerdgrounds.com>

On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 02:00:29PM -0700, Jonathan Campbell wrote:
> I wrote a set of patches out of concern that even if you compile a 386 
> kernel a lot of code irrelevent to legacy machines still remains. Things 
> like the Pentium TSC register, DMI information, ESCD parsing, and the use 
> of CPUID do not apply to these machines, but looking at System.map you can 
> see they're still there.
>
> Already with these patches I can compile a zImage kernel that is 450kb 
> large (890kb decompressed) with a small initramfs payload, floppy and 
> kernel module support, FPU emulation, that can successfully boot on an 
> ancient 386 laptop with only 1MB of extended memory. Eventually what I'd 
> like to have is the ability to compile a pure 386 kernel with all non-386 
> functions removed (and perhaps the same for 486 machines).
>...

Besides some issues with the patch itself you didn't provide the one 
important number:
By how much does your patch decrease the size of the kernel?

Also note that when aiming for a tiny kernel enabling module support is 
a huge mistake since it increases the amount of RAM used when running 
the kernel by at about 10%.

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-15 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-15 21:00 Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels Jonathan Campbell
2007-07-15 21:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 22:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 23:12     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:14       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-15 23:28           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:05 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-07-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 10:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-17 19:30   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18  2:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 15:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 18:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:38         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:45           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:47             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-18 18:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-18 18:42       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:44       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 19:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-21 10:09         ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-18 19:41     ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 19:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 21:04           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 22:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-30 17:59             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-18 20:41         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-20  7:27           ` Uwe Hermann
2007-07-20  7:35             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 14:49               ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-24 20:50                 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25  0:55                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:45     ` Willy Tarreau
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     [not found] ` <8HlxM-7iT-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8HlxL-7iT-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8HlHq-7vR-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8HlHr-7vR-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-16 13:12         ` Bodo Eggert

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