From: Uwe Hermann <uwe@hermann-uwe.de>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Jonathan Campbell <jon@nerdgrounds.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:27:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720072730.GN3700@greenwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718204102.GM11115@waste.org>
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On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 03:41:02PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 10:10:43PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >
> > I was waiting for someone to make that "point" ...
> >
> > >
> > > Every byte you can shave off the compressed kernel image is another
> > > byte you can use for userspace on your FLASH.
> >
> > Now let's see if that 1MB 386 contains any flash at all. Guesses?
>
> I've certainly worked on such devices. I expect there are more of them
> still in service, than, say, Voyagers.
>
> I haven't looked at whether this CPUID stuff is worth the trouble, I'm
> just responding to your argument about init code. Init code is
> definitely not free. It takes up storage space, which can be extremely
> valuable.
Ack.
Some people are putting Linux kernels in the "BIOS" (i.e. ROM chip) when
using LinuxBIOS (www.linuxbios.org). It _does_ make a lot of difference
there how big the kernel is. At the moment you can't do that with
anything smaller than a 1 MB chip. But if people could use 512 KB chips
because the kernel is small enough that would sure be a great thing.
In such scenarios every single byte matters.
Uwe.
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-15 21:00 Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels Jonathan Campbell
2007-07-15 21:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 23:12 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:14 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-15 23:28 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 10:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-17 19:30 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 2:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 15:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 18:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:38 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-18 18:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-18 18:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 19:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-21 10:09 ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-18 19:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 19:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 20:10 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 21:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 22:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-30 17:59 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-18 20:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-20 7:27 ` Uwe Hermann [this message]
2007-07-20 7:35 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 14:49 ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-24 20:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25 0:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:45 ` Willy Tarreau
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2007-07-16 13:12 ` Bodo Eggert
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