From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>,
Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:28:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070719012848.GO11115@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469EB4E5.2040300@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:48:37AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 07/19/2007 02:41 AM, Matt Mackall wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:15:39AM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
> >>Using kmalloc(8k) instead of alloc_page() doesn't sound a too big deal
> >>and that will solve the problem.
> >
> >How do you figure?
> >
> >If you're saying that soft pages helps our 8k stack allocations, it
> >doesn't. The memory overhead of soft pages will be higher (5-15%,
> >mostly due to file tails in pagecache) than the level at which 8k
> >stacks currently run into trouble (1-2% free?).
> >
> >Not helpful.
>
> With tail-packing it is.
Tail packing is a whole new can of worms. Especially as it's very
likely to make performance suffer on small files (the common case).
On the other hand, if someone can demonstrate that tail-packed page
cache doesn't suck, we should put it in mainline pronto. The poor
architectures that are stuck with real 64k pages are sure to
appreciate it.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-19 1:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-15 17:17 ` [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 6:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18 0:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 2:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 0:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 1:37 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01 3:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01 8:11 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10 4:51 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10 4:59 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 1:03 ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 0:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 1:28 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 0:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14 ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 0:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46 ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-18 11:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-18 8:37 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-19 13:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12 4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 0:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 2:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 4:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12 6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:37 ` David Chinner
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