From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: carsteno-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: VM id in KVM?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:32:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070723133234.GA31631@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A48ECD.7020809-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:19:41PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
> > Carsten Otte wrote:
> >> Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>> From a Linux point of view, the pid identifies the VM. A
> >>> management application can, however, use its own VM identifiers as
> >>> it sees fit, and map the (possibly persistent, gloablly unique, and
> >>> ridiculously long) VMID to the pid.
> >> It might be preferable to have something that is persistent over
> >> guest migration. Makes life easier for the management application as
> >> far as I see.
> >
> > It may make sense to add a vmid to qemu (or to keep it in the
> > management application entirely). Certainly the kernel doesn't need
> > to know about it.
> >
>
> I take it back. The only entity that can enforce uniqueness is the
> management application, therefore that should be the entity that knows
> about them.
When managing QEMU & KVM guests, libvirt provides 3 identifiers with
varying levels of uniqueness
- ID - a integer unique amongst all active guests on a host
- Name - a string uninque amongst all active & inactive guests on a host
- UUID - 32 byte hex string unique globally
We don't expose the PID directly of the QEMU binary directly. Name and UUID
are both stable across migration - the ID changes upon migration. As Avi
says I dont't see how a individual QEMU process could provide any meaningful
identifier itself aside from its PID whose uniqueness is guarenteed by the
OS on its behalf.
Regards,
Dan.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-23 13:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-23 10:40 VM id in KVM? Jun Koi
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2007-07-23 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46A48B63.2030202-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 11:12 ` Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <46A48D0E.1040803-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 11:17 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46A48E65.6090105-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 11:19 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46A48ECD.7020809-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 13:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
[not found] ` <20070723133234.GA31631-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46A4AF95.2070306-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 13:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-07-23 22:55 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1185231355.1803.22.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-24 1:44 ` Jun Koi
2007-07-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46A58B52.9010405-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-24 5:59 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-23 11:35 ` Carsten Otte
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