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From: sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux Containers
	<containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:23:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070727202337.GC1072@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070727195943.GA25878-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>

Serge E. Hallyn [serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org] wrote:
| Quoting sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org (sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
| > Pavel Emelianov [xemul-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org] wrote:
| > | Oleg Nesterov wrote:
| > | >(What about ptrace_attach() btw? If it is possible to send a signal to init
| > | > from the "parent" namespace, perhaps it makes sense to allow ptracing as
| > | > well).
| > | 
| > | ptracing of tasks fro different namespaces is not possible at all, since
| > | strace utility determines the fork()-ed child pid from the parent's eax
| > | register, which would contain the pid value as this parent sees his child.
| > | But if the strace is in different namespace - it won't be able to find
| > | this child with the pid value from parent's eax.
| > | 
| > | Maybe it's worth disabling cross-namespaces ptracing...
| > 
| > I think so too. Its probably not a serious limitation ?
| 
| Several people think we will implement 'namespace entering' through a
| ptrace hack, where maybe the admin ptraces the init in a child pidns,
| makes it fork, and makes the child execute what it wants (i.e. ps -ef).
| 
| You're talking about killing that functionality?

No. I was only thinking in terms of debugging container init and missed
the namespace entering part.

Pavel, I am not sure I understand your comment about being unable to
ptrace() a child ns. 

BTW, I am able to gdb a process (incl container-init) from parent ns now.

| 
| -serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-27 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-26 14:45 [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found] ` <46A8B37B.6050108-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 14:46   ` [PATCH 1/15] Move exit_task_namespaces() Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B3C4.5080601-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:10       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:38         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 16:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070726164724.GA81-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:59           ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-07-27  8:07           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20070727080758.GA509-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:24               ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                 ` <46A9ABC1.1000800-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:35                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20070727083541.GA528-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  8:37                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-08-02 16:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070802162023.GB137-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  8:00           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46B6D52C.3010405-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  9:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20070806095421.GA85-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06  9:58                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                     ` <46B6F0DA.4080904-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 10:38                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20070806103838.GA129-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 11:21                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                             ` <46B7044A.4030508-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 12:54                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070806125419.GB91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:38                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-08-06 11:29                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                             ` <46B7060E.3020609-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 12:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070806125032.GA91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:36                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                                     ` <46B723F3.8020905-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-06 13:57                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-26 14:47   ` [PATCH 2/15] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:48   ` [PATCH 3/15] kern_siginfo helper Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B42F.5070605-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 11:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729114154.GE120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:07           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD8032.90005-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  0:21               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-26 14:48   ` [PATCH 4/15] Make proc_flust_task() flush entries from multiple proc trees Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:49   ` [PATCH 5/15] Introduce struct upid Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B486.3030006-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29  9:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729095210.GA120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  5:58           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:50   ` [PATCH 6/15] Make alloc_pid(), free_pid() and put_pid() work with " Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B4AE.6040903-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 10:16       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729101651.GB120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:03           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:51   ` [PATCH 7/15] Helpers to obtain pid numbers Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B4D6.1080301-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 19:03       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:40         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 12:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729121051.GF120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:11           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:51   ` [PATCH 8/15] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B502.8070606-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 19:05       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-27  6:43         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 12:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729124045.GG120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:15           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:52   ` [PATCH 9/15] Move alloc_pid() after the namespace is cloned Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B531.3050602-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 15:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070727151238.GA336-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:17           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD8266.8050802-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 23:43               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-31  5:49       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-07-26 14:54   ` [PATCH 10/15] Make each namespace has its own proc tree Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B59E.7050009-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 17:38       ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-29 15:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729155841.GI120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 17:04           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20070729170436.GA941-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:45               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-30  6:43           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:55   ` [PATCH 11/15] Signal semantics Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B5C7.9040407-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 12:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070727123153.GA92-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 13:38           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46A9F54B.5050000-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 18:46               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                 ` <20070727184604.GB1072-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 19:59                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20070727195943.GA25878-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27 20:23                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20070727202337.GC1072-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  9:34                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-30  9:31                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]                         ` <46ADB000.1000705-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 16:13                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                             ` <20070801161335.GA10747-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  8:35                               ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]                                 ` <46B19754.4050908-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 20:09                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-07-29 11:25                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-26 14:56   ` [PATCH 12/15] Miscelaneous stuff for pid namespaces Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B601.4020108-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:22       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727062213.GE23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:53           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:56   ` [PATCH 13/15] Clone the pid namespace Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-26 14:57   ` [PATCH 14/15] Destroy pid namespace on init's death Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B663.9040206-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-29 10:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729104145.GC120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 11:56           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46ADD202.9030502-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30 15:46               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20070730154639.GA127-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  6:19                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                     ` <20070731061917.GB17013-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31  9:07                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                         ` <20070731090721.GA110-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01  6:16                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                             ` <20070801061616.GA5405-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 16:00                               ` Dave Hansen
2007-08-01 19:51                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                   ` <20070801195123.GB196-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  8:37                                     ` Kirill Korotaev
     [not found]                                       ` <46B197E3.3040309-3ImXcnM4P+0@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 16:08                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                           ` <20070802160851.GA137-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:08                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                               ` <20070802170820.GA2566-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03  6:22                                                 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                   ` <20070803062227.GA16833-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03 10:55                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                       ` <20070803105557.GA91-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-03 21:36                                                         ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-08-02  7:37                                 ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2007-08-01 19:48                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                 ` <20070801194811.GA196-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02  7:29                                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                     ` <20070802072958.GA729-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 15:40                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                         ` <20070802154018.GA93-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:20                                           ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                             ` <20070802172033.GA8011-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 17:31                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                 ` <20070802173128.GA2616-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 18:36                                                   ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                                                     ` <20070802183608.GB15332-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 18:49                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20070802184953.GA316-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 19:13                                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-07-26 14:58   ` [PATCH 15/15] Hooks over the code to show correct values to user Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]     ` <46A8B6AD.4000307-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  5:57       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727055736.GC23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:44           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-29 14:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20070729143136.GH120-6lXkIZvqkOAvJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-30  6:49           ` Pavel Emelyanov
     [not found]             ` <46AD89E6.1030607-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-31 10:04               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-27  4:22   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/15] Pid namespaces sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]     ` <20070727042213.GB23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:08       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20070727060856.GD23584-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-27  6:47           ` Pavel Emelyanov

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