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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Knut Petersen <Knut_Petersen@t-online.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	trenn@suse.de, pavel@ucw.cz, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.22 regression: thermal trip points
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:30:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708031430.26789.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B32561.5070703@t-online.de>

On Friday 03 August 2007 08:53, Knut Petersen wrote:
> Len Brown :
> >  
> >
> > Thanks for the sighting, Knut!
> > This regression is dramatic when put in the terms of 50% performance hit!
> > I guess the good news is that thermal throttling is doing the job
> > we are asking it to:-)
> >
> >
> >   
> Thermal management by cpufreq is working really fine ;-)

Unfortunately, I a lot of people don't understand that the ";-)"
after this statement and they really think that cpufreq is a
solution for thermal management.  It isn't.  Systems still
need to be thermally sane when they are fully utilized and
cpufreq helps not.

> My problems are definitely not related to a linux bug. All trip_points
> are fixed, hardcoded in the system BIOS at address 0x000FF810.
> 
> Yes, I could hack  and flash a custom BIOS.
> 
> After reading a lot I think I even could fix the DSDT.

No, you should never have to override your BIOS --
except for debugging.

If Windows works out-of-the-box on this system,
then Linux should too - even if we have to use a DMI-based
workaround for a BIOS bug.

I'm looking forward to seeing the bug report that you are
going to file.  Please include the dmidecode output in addition
to the acpidump output.

thanks,
-Len

      reply	other threads:[~2007-08-03 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-02  8:40 2.6.22 regression: thermal trip points Knut Petersen
2007-08-02  8:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-02 10:48   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 11:00     ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 12:05       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 13:04         ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 13:16           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 15:57             ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-02 18:38               ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 18:40                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 11:16                 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-03 18:59                   ` Len Brown
2007-08-06  9:55                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-07 18:58                       ` Len Brown
2007-08-07 21:49                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-13 12:30                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-02 15:55     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-02  9:42 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02  9:45   ` Adrian Schröter
2007-08-02  9:58     ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 11:02       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 11:13         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 11:45           ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 11:56             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 12:42               ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 12:55                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 11:59           ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 11:57             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 12:06               ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 12:15                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 12:35                   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-02 12:47                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-02 21:56     ` Len Brown
2007-08-02 21:56       ` Len Brown
2007-08-02 11:32   ` Knut Petersen
2007-08-02 12:06     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 13:06       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-02 16:07     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-02 19:25     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-08-02 21:56 ` Len Brown
2007-08-02 21:56   ` Len Brown
2007-08-03 11:43   ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-08-03 18:35     ` Len Brown
2007-08-03 12:53   ` Knut Petersen
2007-08-03 18:30     ` Len Brown [this message]

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