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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	Michael Sedkowski <sedmich@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:06:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070809150634.GA3926@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8140E.3000509@gmail.com>

Hi!

> >> Oh... crap, so acpi wants to sync cache on shutdown.  I wonder whether
> >> it spins down the disk correctly.  Does emergency unload count increase
> >> after each power down?  Also, please post the result of 'dmidecode'.
> > 
> > I know that my Compaq X1000-series laptop does do some kind of ACPI
> > games with the disk on ACPI power off (I assume it is putting the disk
> > in standby before power-off at least). It also does this if you boot
> > into DOS, GRUB, etc. and then hit the power button. Could be if the disk
> > is dumb enough to spin up for sync cache and standby when there is
> > nothing to flush, and the kernel does its own standby, this could cause
> > an extra spinup/down..
> 
> Yeah, that seems to be what's going on.  I don't think we have any other
> choice than blacklisting those notebooks.  This is a mess.  How does the
> other OS cope with this?
> 
> I'm thinking about using DMI vendor/product match to detect the affected
> systems but I think it would be better to match the ACPI implementation
> directly.  Is there a way to match specific ACPI implementation?

Well.. unless they use some SMM trick, it is ACPI AML code telling
kernel to spin the disk down. I guess we could detect that, and simply
ignore the request.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-09 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-08-06 23:31           ` Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk Robert Hancock
2007-08-07  6:41             ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:28               ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-07 14:37                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:45               ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 19:23                 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 20:09                   ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 20:33                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 20:41                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 21:28                         ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 22:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08  9:29                           ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-08  9:29                             ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-08  2:56                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 12:24                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-09 21:46                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08  2:54                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:08                     ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:14                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:24                         ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:30                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 15:21                           ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 15:35                             ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 15:35                               ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 16:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 17:04                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-09 15:06               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-08-09 18:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-08-08  0:23                 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08 12:27                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-08-11  2:21                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08 18:58 Al Boldi
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2007-08-08  0:14           ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08  4:06             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-08  4:26               ` Robert Hancock
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2007-08-06 12:38 Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 12:34 Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-05 21:37 Michał sed
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2007-08-05 21:33 ` Michał sed
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2007-09-08 21:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-08 21:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-09  9:20       ` Maciek Rutecki
2007-09-09 11:35         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06  5:22 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 14:23   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 14:50     ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 14:50       ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:01       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 15:27         ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:27           ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:32         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 17:03           ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 18:21             ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 18:21               ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 18:43               ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 19:40                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 19:40                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 19:43                 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 19:43                   ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 22:18                 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07  6:56                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07  9:18                     ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07  9:18                       ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07  9:31                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07  9:31                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:56                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07  9:30                     ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07  9:30                       ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 23:45                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07  6:53                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:51                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:04                       ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 13:35                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:09                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:16                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:32                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:45                             ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 14:01                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-09 15:16                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-09 15:56                                   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-06 19:25               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 19:25                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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