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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CFS review
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:52:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070812155242.GA1977@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708121827.36656.a1426z@gawab.com>


* Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com> wrote:

> > so could you please re-check chew jitter behavior with the latest 
> > kernel? (i've attached the standalone patch below, it will apply 
> > cleanly to rc2 too.)
> 
> That fixes it, but by reducing granularity ctx is up 4-fold.

ok, great! (the context-switch rate is obviously up.)

> Mind you, it does have an enormous effect on responsiveness, as 
> negative nice with small granularity can't hijack the system any more.

ok. i'm glad you like the result :-) This makes reniced X (or any 
reniced app) more usable.

> The thing is, this unpredictability seems to exist even at nice level 
> 0, but the smaller granularity covers it all up.  It occasionally 
> exhibits itself as hick-ups during transient heavy workload flux.  But 
> it's not easily reproducible.

In general, "hickups" can be due to many, many reasons. If a task got 
indeed delayed by scheduling jitter that is provable, even if the 
behavior is hard to reproduce, by enabling CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y and 
CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS=y in your kernel. First clear all the stats:

  for N in /proc/*/task/*/sched; do echo 0 > $N; done

then wait for the 'hickup' to happen, and once it happens capture the 
system state (after the hickup) via this script:

  http://people.redhat.com/mingo/cfs-scheduler/tools/cfs-debug-info.sh

and tell me which specific task exhibited that 'hickup' and send me the 
debug output. Also, could you try the patch below as well? Thanks,

	Ingo

-------------------------------->
Subject: sched: fix sleeper bonus
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>

Peter Ziljstra noticed that the sleeper bonus deduction code
was not properly rate-limited: a task that scheduled more
frequently would get a disproportionately large deduction.
So limit the deduction to delta_exec.

Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
---
 kernel/sched_fair.c |   12 ++++++------
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

Index: linux/kernel/sched_fair.c
===================================================================
--- linux.orig/kernel/sched_fair.c
+++ linux/kernel/sched_fair.c
@@ -75,7 +75,7 @@ enum {
 
 unsigned int sysctl_sched_features __read_mostly =
 		SCHED_FEAT_FAIR_SLEEPERS	*1 |
-		SCHED_FEAT_SLEEPER_AVG		*1 |
+		SCHED_FEAT_SLEEPER_AVG		*0 |
 		SCHED_FEAT_SLEEPER_LOAD_AVG	*1 |
 		SCHED_FEAT_PRECISE_CPU_LOAD	*1 |
 		SCHED_FEAT_START_DEBIT		*1 |
@@ -304,11 +304,9 @@ __update_curr(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, str
 	delta_mine = calc_delta_mine(delta_exec, curr->load.weight, lw);
 
 	if (cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus > sysctl_sched_granularity) {
-		delta = calc_delta_mine(cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus,
-					curr->load.weight, lw);
-		if (unlikely(delta > cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus))
-			delta = cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus;
-
+		delta = min(cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus, (u64)delta_exec);
+		delta = calc_delta_mine(delta, curr->load.weight, lw);
+		delta = min((u64)delta, cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus);
 		cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus -= delta;
 		delta_mine -= delta;
 	}
@@ -521,6 +519,8 @@ static void __enqueue_sleeper(struct cfs
 	 * Track the amount of bonus we've given to sleepers:
 	 */
 	cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus += delta_fair;
+	if (unlikely(cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus > sysctl_sched_runtime_limit))
+		cfs_rq->sleeper_bonus = sysctl_sched_runtime_limit;
 
 	schedstat_add(cfs_rq, wait_runtime, se->wait_runtime);
 }

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-12 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-11 10:44 CFS review Al Boldi
2007-08-12  4:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-12 15:27   ` Al Boldi
2007-08-12 15:52     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-08-12 19:43       ` Al Boldi
2007-08-21 10:58         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 22:27           ` Al Boldi
2007-08-24 13:45             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-25 22:27               ` Al Boldi
2007-08-25 23:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-26 16:27                   ` Al Boldi
2007-08-26 16:39                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-27  4:06                       ` Al Boldi
2007-08-27 10:53                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-27 14:46                           ` Al Boldi
2007-08-27 20:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-28  4:37                               ` Al Boldi
2007-08-28  5:05                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-28  5:23                                   ` Al Boldi
2007-08-28  7:28                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-28  7:36                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-28 16:34                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-28 16:44                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-28 16:45                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  4:19                                         ` Al Boldi
2007-08-29  4:53                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  5:58                                             ` Al Boldi
2007-08-29  6:43                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-28 20:46                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-28  7:43                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-08-28  8:02                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-28 19:19                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-28 19:55                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  4:18                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  4:29                                   ` Keith Packard
2007-08-29  4:46                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  7:57                                       ` Keith Packard
2007-08-29  8:04                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29  8:53                                           ` Al Boldi
2007-08-29 15:57                                           ` Keith Packard
2007-08-29 19:56                                             ` Rene Herman
2007-08-30  7:05                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-08-30  7:20                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-31  6:46                                                 ` Tilman Sauerbeck
2007-08-31 10:44                                                   ` DRM and/or X trouble (was Re: CFS review) Rene Herman
2007-08-31 14:55                                                     ` DRM and/or X trouble Satyam Sharma
2007-08-30 16:06                                               ` CFS review Chuck Ebbert
2007-08-30 16:48                                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-08-29  4:40                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-29  3:42                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-08-29  3:37                 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-08-29  3:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-29 13:11                     ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-10  8:31 -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 Andrew Morton
2007-07-11 12:43 ` x86 status was " Andi Kleen
2007-07-11 17:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-11 21:16     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-11 21:46       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-11 22:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-13  2:23           ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-13  4:47             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-13 17:23               ` Roman Zippel
2007-07-14  5:04                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-01  3:41                   ` CFS review Roman Zippel
2007-08-01  7:12                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01  7:26                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-01  7:30                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01  7:36                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-01  8:49                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-01 13:19                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 15:07                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 17:10                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 16:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-01 17:48                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 17:50                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 18:01                                 ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 19:05                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-09 23:14                                     ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-10  5:49                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-10 13:52                                         ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-10 14:18                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-10 16:47                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-10 17:19                                             ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-10 16:54                                           ` Michael Chang
2007-08-10 17:25                                             ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-10 19:44                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-10 19:47                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-10 21:15                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-10 21:36                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-10 22:50                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-11  5:28                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-12  5:17                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-11  0:30                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 22:19                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-21  7:33                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-21  8:35                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:54                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-11  5:15                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-10  7:23                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-08-01 11:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 12:21                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 12:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 13:59                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 14:04                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-01 15:44                           ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 17:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 18:14                               ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-03  3:04                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-03  3:57                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-03  4:18                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-03  4:31                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-03  4:53                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-03  4:38                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-03  8:44                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-03  9:29                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 11:37                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 12:27                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 13:20                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 13:33                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 14:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 16:11                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02  2:17                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-02  4:57                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-02 10:43                             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-02 10:07                               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-02 16:09                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-02 22:38                             ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-02 19:16                           ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-02 23:23                           ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-01 14:40                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-01 14:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-02 17:36                       ` Roman Zippel
2007-08-02 15:46                     ` Ingo Molnar

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