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From: mel@skynet.ie (Mel Gorman)
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, riel@redhat.com,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com, npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure"
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:54:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070918095443.GA2035@skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709171137360.27057@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On (17/09/07 11:41), Christoph Lameter didst pronounce:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> 
> > > One fleeting thought here: It may be useful to *not* allocate known 
> > > unreclaimable pages with __GFP_MOVABLE.
> > 
> > Sorry, I don't understand where you're coming from here.
> > Non-reclaimable pages should be migratable, but maybe __GFP_MOVABLE
> > means something else?
> 
> True. __GFP_MOVABLE + MLOCK is movable.

Yes. Right now, it's rare we actually move them but the patches exist to
make it possible when we find it to be a real problem.

> Also the ramfs/shmem pages. There 
> may be uses though that require a page to stay put because it is used for 
> some nefarious I/O purpose by a driver. RDMA comes to mind.

Yeah :/

> Maybe we need 
> some additional option that works like MLOCK but forbids migration.

The problem with RDMA that I recall is that we don't know at allocation
time that they may be unmovable sometimes in the future. I didn't think
of a way around that problem.

> Those 
> would then be unreclaimable and not __GFP_MOVABLE. I know some of our 
> applications create huge amount of these.
> 

Can you think of a way that pages that will be later pinned by something
like RDMA can be identified in advance?

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-18  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18  2:41     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57         ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 15:37       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19       ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20  1:24   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15  1:55     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  9:20   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15  2:00   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18  1:58   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18  2:27     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18  2:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  0:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20  0:56           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40   ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39       ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36       ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36     ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21       ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01         ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18  9:54         ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2007-09-18 19:45           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11             ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  6:00   ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  1:56   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  1:57   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:18   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:52   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 15:52     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17  2:53   ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01       ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-19 14:55         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18  2:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15  0:07       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17  6:44 ` Balbir Singh

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