From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, clameter@sgi.com,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, eric.whitney@hp.com, npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:57:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46EFE762.9040305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070918110119.GD2035@skynet.ie>
Mel Gorman wrote:
> On (18/09/07 11:41), KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki didst pronounce:
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:02:35 +0100
>> mel@skynet.ie (Mel Gorman) wrote:
>>
>>> On (14/09/07 16:54), Lee Schermerhorn didst pronounce:
>>>> [PATCH/RFC] 01/14 Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma list lock a read/write lock
>>>>
>>>> Against 2.6.23-rc4-mm1
>>>>
>>>> Make the anon_vma list lock a read/write lock. Heaviest use of this
>>>> lock is in the page_referenced()/try_to_unmap() calls from vmscan
>>>> [shrink_page_list()]. These functions can use a read lock to allow
>>>> some parallelism for different cpus trying to reclaim pages mapped
>>>> via the same set of vmas.
>> <snip>
>>> In light of what Peter and Linus said about rw-locks being more expensive
>>> than spinlocks, we'll need to measure this with some benchmark. The plus
>>> side is that this patch can be handled in isolation because it's either a
>>> scalability fix or it isn't. It's worth investigating because you say it
>>> fixed a real problem where under load the job was able to complete with
>>> this patch and live-locked without it.
>>>
>>> When you decide on a test-case, I can test just this patch and see what
>>> results I find.
>>>
>> One of the case I can imagine is..
>> ==
>> 1. Use NUMA.
>> 2. create *large* anon_vma and use it with MPOL_INTERLEAVE
>> 3. When memory is exhausted (on several nodes), all kswapd on nodes will
>> see one anon_vma->lock.
>> ==
>> Maybe the worst case.
>
> It certainly sounds like a bad case. Would be very difficult to measure
> as part of a test though as latencies in kswapd are not very obvious.
We have observed this problem in customer workloads.
I believe Larry Woodman has a test program that may be
able to trigger the problem.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-18 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-14 20:53 [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/14] Reclaim Scalability: Convert anon_vma lock to read/write lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 11:02 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 2:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 14:57 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-09-18 15:37 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/14] Reclaim Scalability: convert inode i_mmap_lock to reader/writer lock Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-20 14:10 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 14:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/14] Reclaim Scalability: move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 1:55 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:11 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:19 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/14] Reclaim Scalability: Define page_anon() function Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-15 2:00 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 1:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 2:27 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 2:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 0:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 16:58 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-20 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/14] Reclaim Scalability: Use an indexed array for LRU variables Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 13:40 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-17 14:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 14:39 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:58 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:12 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 19:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 20:21 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-17 21:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/14] Reclaim Scalability: "No Reclaim LRU Infrastructure" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-17 15:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-18 19:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 11:11 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-19 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-19 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable page statistics Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:56 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 8/14] Reclaim Scalability: Ram Disk Pages are non-reclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 1:57 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 14:40 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-14 20:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 9/14] Reclaim Scalability: SHM_LOCKED pages are nonreclaimable Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/14] Reclaim Scalability: track anon_vma "related vmas" Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-17 15:52 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/14] Reclaim Scalability: swap backed pages are nonreclaimable when no swap space available Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-17 2:53 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-18 17:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 20:01 ` Rik van Riel
2007-09-19 14:55 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/14] Reclaim Scalability: Non-reclaimable Mlock'ed pages Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/14] Reclaim Scalability: Handle Mlock'ed pages during map/unmap and truncate Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 20:55 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/14] Reclaim Scalability: cull non-reclaimable anon pages in fault path Lee Schermerhorn
2007-09-14 21:11 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/14] Page Reclaim Scalability Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-14 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-14 22:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-15 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-17 6:44 ` Balbir Singh
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