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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Christer Weinigel <christer@weinigel.se>
Cc: David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>, Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>, majkls <majkls@prepere.com>,
	bunk@fs.tum.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:23:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070927112316.GC18346@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070927092808.612c204b@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 09:28:08AM +0200, Christer Weinigel wrote:
> So the OpenBSD man page seems to be in the minority here.  Any portable
> code can not assume that CWD changes.  And changing the Linux behaviour
> now would be a rather big change which might break userspace.  And yes,
> there are applications that rely on this, I've used it when building
> software for cross compiling.  

Changing Linux behavior would violate the POSIX and SuSV2
specifications; the standards explicitly state that the working
directory will NOT change.  And standards adherance is important; we
break them only if we have a d*mn good reason.  And trying to make
chroot() something which it is not (i.e., a secure jail) is certainly
not a good enough reason.

Can we please end this thread now?  And can we put in a Kernel FAQ
saying that this is not something which is NOT up for discussion?

       	    	    		  	   - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-27 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-19  7:19 sys_chroot+sys_fchdir Fix majkls
2007-09-19  9:40 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-19 18:27   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-19 18:45     ` Alan Cox
2007-09-19 22:24       ` David Newall
2007-09-21 17:39         ` Phillip Susi
2007-09-21 18:10           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-25 20:53             ` Phillip Susi
2007-09-26  0:23               ` Al Viro
2007-09-26 10:34                 ` David Newall
2007-09-26 11:21                   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 11:22                     ` David Newall
2007-09-26 11:38                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 11:56                         ` David Newall
2007-09-26 14:10                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 15:03                             ` Chris Adams
2007-09-26 16:54                             ` David Newall
2007-09-26 17:04                               ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 17:18                                 ` David Newall
2007-09-26 17:29                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-26 17:28                                     ` David Newall
2007-09-26 18:40                   ` Al Viro
2007-09-26 19:24                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-09-26 21:19                     ` David Newall
2007-09-26 21:55                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-26 23:35                         ` David Newall
2007-09-27  0:01                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-27  3:59                             ` Al Viro
2007-09-27  6:42                             ` David Newall
2007-09-27  6:53                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-27  7:28                       ` Christer Weinigel
2007-09-27 11:23                         ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-09-27 14:36                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-28  1:06                             ` David Newall
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     [not found]   ` <95ctn-74b-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2007-09-20 11:13         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-20 11:59           ` Philipp Marek
2007-09-20 12:52             ` majkls
2007-09-20 16:06             ` David Newall
2007-09-20 16:17               ` Philipp Marek
2007-09-20 18:02                 ` David Newall
2007-09-20 20:53                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-21  8:29                     ` David Newall
2007-09-24 21:32                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-24 22:04                         ` David Newall
2007-09-24 23:00                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-25  7:45                             ` David Newall
2007-09-25 11:49                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-25 13:58                                 ` David Newall
2007-09-24 23:02                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <95UE2-1oR-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]               ` <97sX2-p1-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-26  9:38                 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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     [not found] ` <fa.WASh5K8oOF4DAq3sSYtIlWNCdWQ@ifi.uio.no>
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