From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: nigel@suspend2.net,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joseph Fannin <jfannin@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v3: kexec jump
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:10 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709271635.13099.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190874834.21818.300.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
Hi.
On Thursday 27 September 2007 16:33:54 Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 16:30 -0400, Joseph Fannin wrote:
> > But, in my ignorance, I'm not sure even fixing the ext3 bug will
> > guarantee you consistent metadata so that you can handle a
> > swap/hibernate file. You can do a sync(), but how do you make that
> > not race against running processes without the freezer, or blkdev
> > snapshots?
> >
> > I guess uswsusp and the-patch-previously-known-as-suspend2 handle
> > this somehow, though.
>
> The image-writing kernel of kexec based hibernation run in a controlled
> way. It is not used by normal user, so only really necessary process
> need to be run. For example, it is possible that there is only one user
> process -- the image-writing process running in image-writing kernel.
> So, no freezer or blkdev snapshot is needed.
You're thinking of the wrong kernel - we were talking about prior to switching
to the kexec'd kernel while suspending.
Regards,
Nigel
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From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: nigel@suspend2.net,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joseph Fannin <jfannin@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v3: kexec jump
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:10 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709271635.13099.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190874834.21818.300.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
Hi.
On Thursday 27 September 2007 16:33:54 Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 16:30 -0400, Joseph Fannin wrote:
> > But, in my ignorance, I'm not sure even fixing the ext3 bug will
> > guarantee you consistent metadata so that you can handle a
> > swap/hibernate file. You can do a sync(), but how do you make that
> > not race against running processes without the freezer, or blkdev
> > snapshots?
> >
> > I guess uswsusp and the-patch-previously-known-as-suspend2 handle
> > this somehow, though.
>
> The image-writing kernel of kexec based hibernation run in a controlled
> way. It is not used by normal user, so only really necessary process
> need to be run. For example, it is possible that there is only one user
> process -- the image-writing process running in image-writing kernel.
> So, no freezer or blkdev snapshot is needed.
You're thinking of the wrong kernel - we were talking about prior to switching
to the kexec'd kernel while suspending.
Regards,
Nigel
--
See http://www.tuxonice.net for Howtos, FAQs, mailing
lists, wiki and bugzilla info.
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From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Joseph Fannin <jfannin@gmail.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
nigel@suspend2.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v3: kexec jump
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:10 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709271635.13099.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190874834.21818.300.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
Hi.
On Thursday 27 September 2007 16:33:54 Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 16:30 -0400, Joseph Fannin wrote:
> > But, in my ignorance, I'm not sure even fixing the ext3 bug will
> > guarantee you consistent metadata so that you can handle a
> > swap/hibernate file. You can do a sync(), but how do you make that
> > not race against running processes without the freezer, or blkdev
> > snapshots?
> >
> > I guess uswsusp and the-patch-previously-known-as-suspend2 handle
> > this somehow, though.
>
> The image-writing kernel of kexec based hibernation run in a controlled
> way. It is not used by normal user, so only really necessary process
> need to be run. For example, it is possible that there is only one user
> process -- the image-writing process running in image-writing kernel.
> So, no freezer or blkdev snapshot is needed.
You're thinking of the wrong kernel - we were talking about prior to switching
to the kexec'd kernel while suspending.
Regards,
Nigel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-27 6:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-20 5:34 [RFC][PATCH 1/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation -v3: kexec jump Huang, Ying
2007-09-20 5:34 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-20 10:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-20 10:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-20 10:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 0:24 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 0:24 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 1:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 1:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 1:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 1:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:45 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:45 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:45 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 4:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 4:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-26 20:30 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-09-26 20:30 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-09-26 20:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-26 20:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-26 20:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-27 6:33 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-27 6:33 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-27 6:35 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2007-09-27 6:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-27 6:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-27 6:33 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-26 20:30 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-09-21 4:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 2:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-22 22:02 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-09-22 22:02 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-09-22 22:02 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-09-21 2:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 3:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 3:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 3:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:09 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 13:14 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 13:14 ` [linux-pm] " huang ying
2007-09-21 13:14 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 14:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 14:31 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 14:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-21 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 15:02 ` [linux-pm] " huang ying
2007-09-21 15:02 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 15:02 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 18:11 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 18:11 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 19:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 19:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 19:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 19:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-21 19:45 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-09-21 19:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-09-21 20:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 20:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 20:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 20:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 20:53 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 21:08 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 21:08 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 21:16 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 21:16 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 21:16 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 23:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 23:19 ` [linux-pm] " Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 23:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 23:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 23:47 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 23:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-22 10:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 10:40 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 10:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-11 20:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-11 20:54 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-10-11 20:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-24 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-24 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-10-24 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 10:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 10:34 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 10:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 18:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-22 18:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-22 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-26 20:52 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-09-26 20:52 ` [linux-pm] " Joseph Fannin
2007-09-26 20:52 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-09-22 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-22 18:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 21:08 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 20:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 20:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 18:11 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-09-21 4:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 4:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 4:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 1:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 11:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 11:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 11:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 11:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 11:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 12:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 12:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 13:25 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 13:25 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 13:25 ` huang ying
2007-09-21 11:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 1:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-24 17:37 ` Thomas Meyer
2007-09-24 17:37 ` Thomas Meyer
2007-09-24 17:37 ` Thomas Meyer
2007-09-21 9:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 9:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 9:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-21 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:10 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-21 0:24 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-09-21 2:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 2:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 7:27 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 7:27 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 7:27 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 2:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 4:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 4:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 4:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-21 8:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 8:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-09-21 8:42 ` Huang, Ying
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