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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout()
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:54:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071004115458.10897e51.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191521410.5574.36.camel@lappy>

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:10:10 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:46 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:47:07 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > static int may_write_to_queue(struct backing_dev_info *bdi)
> > > {
> > > 	if (current->flags & PF_SWAPWRITE)
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	if (!bdi_write_congested(bdi))
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	if (bdi == current->backing_dev_info)
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	return 0;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > Which will write to congested queues. Anybody know why?
> 
> OK, I guess I could have found that :-/

Nice changelog, if I do say so myself ;)

> >     One fix for this would be to add an additional "really congested"
> >     threshold in the request queues, so kswapd can still perform
> >     nonblocking writeout.  This gives kswapd priority over pdflush while
> >     allowing kswapd to feed many disk queues.  I doubt if this will be
> >     called for.
> 
> I could do that.

I guess first you'd need to be able to reproduce the problem which that
patch fixed, then check that it remains fixed.

Sigh.  That problem was fairly subtle.  We could re-break reclaim in
this way and not find out about it for six months.  There's a lesson here. 
Several.  

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout()
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:54:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071004115458.10897e51.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191521410.5574.36.camel@lappy>

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:10:10 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:46 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:47:07 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > static int may_write_to_queue(struct backing_dev_info *bdi)
> > > {
> > > 	if (current->flags & PF_SWAPWRITE)
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	if (!bdi_write_congested(bdi))
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	if (bdi == current->backing_dev_info)
> > > 		return 1;
> > > 	return 0;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > Which will write to congested queues. Anybody know why?
> 
> OK, I guess I could have found that :-/

Nice changelog, if I do say so myself ;)

> >     One fix for this would be to add an additional "really congested"
> >     threshold in the request queues, so kswapd can still perform
> >     nonblocking writeout.  This gives kswapd priority over pdflush while
> >     allowing kswapd to feed many disk queues.  I doubt if this will be
> >     called for.
> 
> I could do that.

I guess first you'd need to be able to reproduce the problem which that
patch fixed, then check that it remains fixed.

Sigh.  That problem was fairly subtle.  We could re-break reclaim in
this way and not find out about it for six months.  There's a lesson here. 
Several.  

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-04 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-04 12:25 [PATCH] remove throttle_vm_writeout() Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 12:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 12:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:00   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 13:00     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 13:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 13:49       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 13:49         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 16:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 16:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 17:46           ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 17:46             ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 18:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 18:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 18:54               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-10-04 18:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 12:30             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 12:30               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 12:30                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05 17:20                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05 17:20                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-06  2:32                   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-06  2:32                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-06  2:32                       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-07 23:54               ` David Chinner
2007-10-07 23:54                 ` David Chinner
2007-10-08  0:33                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-08  0:33                   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-08  0:33                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-04 21:07           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 21:07             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 21:56   ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 22:39   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 22:39     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 23:09       ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 23:26       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:26         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-04 23:48         ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-04 23:48           ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05  0:12           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05  0:12             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05  0:48             ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05  0:48               ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-05  8:22               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05  9:22                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05  9:22                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05  9:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 10:27                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 10:27                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 10:32                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 10:32                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 15:43                         ` John Stoffel
2007-10-05 15:43                           ` John Stoffel
2007-10-05 10:57                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 11:27                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 11:27                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-05 17:50                         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 17:50                           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 18:32                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 18:32                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 19:20                             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 19:20                               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 19:23                               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 19:23                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-10-05 21:07                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 21:07                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-06  0:40                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-06  0:40                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-06  0:40                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-05  7:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 19:54         ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-05 19:54           ` Rik van Riel

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