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* RFC: remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL
@ 2007-11-01  5:08 Adrian Bunk
  2007-11-01  8:39 ` Stefan Richter
  2007-11-10 14:33 ` Pierre Ossman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Adrian Bunk @ 2007-11-01  5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

I'm about to send a patch that removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all 
dependencies on EXPERIMENTAL because they are pointless.

Complete rationale:
- Many people and all distributions are currently forced to enable 
  CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL since the options for many device drivers depend 
  on this option.
  I have yet to see someone not being able to install his favorite 
  distribution on his computer only because the distribution did choose 
  to disable all SATA drivers with dependencies on EXPERIMENTAL in their
  kernels...
- History has shown that often the dependency on EXPERIMENTAL is not 
  removed when the code has proven usable.
  As an example, is our NFSv4 support really still in an
  "alpha-test phase" [1], or is it already ready for being used?
  I don't know the answer in this specific case, but I wouldn't answer
  "still in an alpha-test phase" only based on the fact that the NFSv4 
  options still depend on EXPERIMENTAL.
- It might have been differently 10 years ago, but today everything that
  is available in a released kernel should also be in a usable state.

cu
Adrian

[1] quoted from the CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL help text

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


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* Re: RFC: remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL
  2007-11-01  5:08 RFC: remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL Adrian Bunk
@ 2007-11-01  8:39 ` Stefan Richter
  2007-11-10 14:33 ` Pierre Ossman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Richter @ 2007-11-01  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Bunk; +Cc: linux-kernel

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> I'm about to send a patch that removes the EXPERIMENTAL option and all 
> dependencies on EXPERIMENTAL because they are pointless.

FWIW, I agree.

[...]
>   As an example, is our NFSv4 support really still in an
>   "alpha-test phase" [1], or is it already ready for being used?
[...]
> [1] quoted from the CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL help text

I don't know about NFSv4 in particular, but I think we have the whole
palette, from "alpha" software which is basically ready for production,
to buggy incomplete software which is heavily in production and trains
users to lower their expectations.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=== =-== ----=
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

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* Re: RFC: remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL
  2007-11-01  5:08 RFC: remove CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL Adrian Bunk
  2007-11-01  8:39 ` Stefan Richter
@ 2007-11-10 14:33 ` Pierre Ossman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Pierre Ossman @ 2007-11-10 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adrian Bunk; +Cc: linux-kernel

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:08:55 +0100
Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote:

> - History has shown that often the dependency on EXPERIMENTAL is not 
>   removed when the code has proven usable.

Guilty as charged. Feel free to kill any references to experimental for sdhci.

(I also support the general sentiment)

Rgds
-- 
     -- Pierre Ossman

  Linux kernel, MMC maintainer        http://www.kernel.org
  PulseAudio, core developer          http://pulseaudio.org
  rdesktop, core developer          http://www.rdesktop.org

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