* linux-usb-devel@vger created... @ 2007-11-19 22:46 David Miller 2007-11-19 22:54 ` Greg KH 2007-11-20 3:12 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-19 22:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-kernel; +Cc: greg, david-b Because sourceforge just farted another bounce at me because someone CC:'d the sourceforge linux-usb-devel list on a thread I was a part of, I've created: linux-usb-devel@vger.kernel.org so we don't need to have a subscriber-only-posting mailing list for USB stuff. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-19 22:46 linux-usb-devel@vger created David Miller @ 2007-11-19 22:54 ` Greg KH 2007-11-20 0:17 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 3:12 ` Greg KH 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-19 22:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller, linux-usb-devel; +Cc: linux-kernel, david-b On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 02:46:09PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > Because sourceforge just farted another bounce at me > because someone CC:'d the sourceforge linux-usb-devel > list on a thread I was a part of, I've created: > > linux-usb-devel@vger.kernel.org > > so we don't need to have a subscriber-only-posting > mailing list for USB stuff. Woah, the linux-usb-devel@sf.net list is NOT a subscriber-only list at all. It's wide open with a bunch of mailman rule filter to try to handle the worst of the spam. It does complain if you try to add too many cc:s to it, but that's it, an admin (me or Stephen) will usually get around to aproving them within 24 hours. But, I have no objection to moving to vger if you want to handle the admin load. If so, should I send you a list of addresses that were on the sf.net list so that people can be migrated? thanks, greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-19 22:54 ` Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 0:17 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 1:33 ` Kay Sievers 2007-11-20 2:20 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 0:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: greg; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:54:55 -0800 > Woah, the linux-usb-devel@sf.net list is NOT a subscriber-only list at > all. It's wide open with a bunch of mailman rule filter to try to > handle the worst of the spam. > > It does complain if you try to add too many cc:s to it, but that's it, > an admin (me or Stephen) will usually get around to aproving them within > 24 hours. Ok, I stand corrected. > But, I have no objection to moving to vger if you want to handle the > admin load. If so, should I send you a list of addresses that were on > the sf.net list so that people can be migrated? We don't do migrations like that, so that people: 1) Learn how to subscribe, and thus how to unsubscribe. 2) Don't get upset that they were added to a mailing list site they may not want to be one. So I'd ask that you send an announcement out to the old list, and during a transition period you can subscribe the old list onto the vger one. Neil B. did something similar recently for linux-nfs, perhaps you can ask him how he handled it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 0:17 ` David Miller @ 2007-11-20 1:33 ` Kay Sievers 2007-11-20 1:55 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 2:20 ` Greg KH 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Kay Sievers @ 2007-11-20 1:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller; +Cc: greg, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b On Nov 20, 2007 1:17 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:54:55 -0800 > > > Woah, the linux-usb-devel@sf.net list is NOT a subscriber-only list at > > all. It's wide open with a bunch of mailman rule filter to try to > > handle the worst of the spam. > > > > It does complain if you try to add too many cc:s to it, but that's it, > > an admin (me or Stephen) will usually get around to aproving them within > > 24 hours. > > Ok, I stand corrected. > > > But, I have no objection to moving to vger if you want to handle the > > admin load. If so, should I send you a list of addresses that were on > > the sf.net list so that people can be migrated? > > We don't do migrations like that, so that people: > > 1) Learn how to subscribe, and thus how to unsubscribe. > > 2) Don't get upset that they were added to a mailing list > site they may not want to be one. > > So I'd ask that you send an announcement out to the old list, > and during a transition period you can subscribe the old > list onto the vger one. > > Neil B. did something similar recently for linux-nfs, perhaps > you can ask him how he handled it. Sounds all good. If that migration works well, please let us do the same for hotplug. Kay ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 1:33 ` Kay Sievers @ 2007-11-20 1:55 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 2:29 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 1:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kay.sievers; +Cc: greg, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b From: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:33:43 +0100 > Sounds all good. If that migration works well, please let us do the > same for hotplug. Tell me what you'd like the list at vger to be named and I can create it now. THanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 1:55 ` David Miller @ 2007-11-20 2:29 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller Cc: kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 05:55:54PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:33:43 +0100 > > > Sounds all good. If that migration works well, please let us do the > > same for hotplug. > > Tell me what you'd like the list at vger to be named and I can > create it now. linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. If so, I can migrate yet-another list there :) thanks again, greg k-h ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... @ 2007-11-20 2:29 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller Cc: kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 05:55:54PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: "Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:33:43 +0100 > > > Sounds all good. If that migration works well, please let us do the > > same for hotplug. > > Tell me what you'd like the list at vger to be named and I can > create it now. linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. If so, I can migrate yet-another list there :) thanks again, greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 2:29 ` Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 3:14 ` David Miller -1 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 3:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: greg Cc: kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 > linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. Created, enjoy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... @ 2007-11-20 3:14 ` David Miller 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 3:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: greg Cc: kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 > linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. Created, enjoy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:14 ` David Miller @ 2007-11-20 4:41 ` Alexander E. Patrakov -1 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Alexander E. Patrakov @ 2007-11-20 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller Cc: greg, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel, kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel David Miller wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 > >> linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. > > Created, enjoy. It would be nice to have the archives of this list and the nntp interface on gmane. -- Alexander E. Patrakov ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... @ 2007-11-20 4:41 ` Alexander E. Patrakov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Alexander E. Patrakov @ 2007-11-20 4:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller Cc: greg, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel, kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel David Miller wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 > >> linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. > > Created, enjoy. It would be nice to have the archives of this list and the nntp interface on gmane. -- Alexander E. Patrakov ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 4:41 ` Alexander E. Patrakov @ 2007-11-20 5:03 ` Greg KH -1 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 5:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander E. Patrakov Cc: David Miller, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel, kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:41:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > David Miller wrote: >> From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> >> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 >>> linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. >> Created, enjoy. > > It would be nice to have the archives of this list and the nntp interface > on gmane. I'm sure they will migrate once I post the information to the lists themselves :) thanks, greg k-h ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... @ 2007-11-20 5:03 ` Greg KH 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 5:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander E. Patrakov Cc: David Miller, david-b, linux-hotplug-devel, kay.sievers, linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 09:41:31AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > David Miller wrote: >> From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> >> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:29:15 -0800 >>> linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org would be great to have. >> Created, enjoy. > > It would be nice to have the archives of this list and the nntp interface > on gmane. I'm sure they will migrate once I post the information to the lists themselves :) thanks, greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 0:17 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 1:33 ` Kay Sievers @ 2007-11-20 2:20 ` Greg KH 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 2:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 04:17:55PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:54:55 -0800 > > > Woah, the linux-usb-devel@sf.net list is NOT a subscriber-only list at > > all. It's wide open with a bunch of mailman rule filter to try to > > handle the worst of the spam. > > > > It does complain if you try to add too many cc:s to it, but that's it, > > an admin (me or Stephen) will usually get around to aproving them within > > 24 hours. > > Ok, I stand corrected. > > > But, I have no objection to moving to vger if you want to handle the > > admin load. If so, should I send you a list of addresses that were on > > the sf.net list so that people can be migrated? > > We don't do migrations like that, so that people: > > 1) Learn how to subscribe, and thus how to unsubscribe. > > 2) Don't get upset that they were added to a mailing list > site they may not want to be one. > > So I'd ask that you send an announcement out to the old list, > and during a transition period you can subscribe the old > list onto the vger one. Ok, I'll do that, it will be nice to move away from the sf.net lists, thanks for offering this for us. greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-19 22:46 linux-usb-devel@vger created David Miller 2007-11-19 22:54 ` Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 3:12 ` Greg KH 2007-11-20 3:13 ` David Miller 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller, linux-usb-devel; +Cc: linux-kernel, david-b On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 02:46:09PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > > Because sourceforge just farted another bounce at me > because someone CC:'d the sourceforge linux-usb-devel > list on a thread I was a part of, I've created: > > linux-usb-devel@vger.kernel.org > > so we don't need to have a subscriber-only-posting > mailing list for USB stuff. Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? The traffic on our -users list over the years has been pretty trivial, with much of it just posted to the wrong list to start with. Combining the two lists would be good for everyone involved. So, if it's not too late, the name change would be great. If you just want to delete the 'linux-usb-devel' list and create a new one to do this properly, that's also fine with me. thanks, greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:12 ` Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 3:13 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 3:26 ` [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created David Brownell 2007-11-20 4:28 ` linux-usb-devel@vger created Greg KH 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 3:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: greg; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:32 -0800 > Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call > it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? Done. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:13 ` David Miller @ 2007-11-20 3:26 ` David Brownell 2007-11-20 3:28 ` Ismail Dönmez 2007-11-20 4:03 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 4:28 ` linux-usb-devel@vger created Greg KH 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2007-11-20 3:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, greg, linux-kernel On Monday 19 November 2007, David Miller wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:32 -0800 > > > Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call > > it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? > > Done. Subscribe/unsubscribe ... how? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:26 ` [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created David Brownell @ 2007-11-20 3:28 ` Ismail Dönmez 2007-11-20 4:03 ` David Miller 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Ismail Dönmez @ 2007-11-20 3:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Brownell; +Cc: linux-kernel Tuesday 20 November 2007 Tarihinde 05:26:02 yazmıştınız: > On Monday 19 November 2007, David Miller wrote: > > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:32 -0800 > > > > > Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call > > > it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? > > > > Done. > > Subscribe/unsubscribe ... how? See http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html#subscription -- Faith is believing what you know isn't so -- Mark Twain ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:26 ` [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created David Brownell 2007-11-20 3:28 ` Ismail Dönmez @ 2007-11-20 4:03 ` David Miller 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: David Miller @ 2007-11-20 4:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: david-b; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, greg, linux-kernel From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0800 > On Monday 19 November 2007, David Miller wrote: > > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:32 -0800 > > > > > Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call > > > it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? > > > > Done. > > Subscribe/unsubscribe ... how? Just like any other list at vger.kernel.org: http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html or the quick&easy version: bash$ echo "subscribe linux-usb" | mail majordomo@vger.kernel.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: linux-usb-devel@vger created... 2007-11-20 3:13 ` David Miller 2007-11-20 3:26 ` [linux-usb-devel] linux-usb@vger created David Brownell @ 2007-11-20 4:28 ` Greg KH 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Greg KH @ 2007-11-20 4:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Miller; +Cc: linux-usb-devel, linux-kernel, david-b On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 07:13:34PM -0800, David Miller wrote: > From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:12:32 -0800 > > > Actually, if we are going to stick with this new list, can we just call > > it "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" instead of the "-devel" stuff? > > Done. Great, thanks so much for this. greg k-h ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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