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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	bluez-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:35:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080106033537.GT27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478042F3.7010002@gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 11:54:43AM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> That means sysfs_remove_dir() is called on parent while other operations
> are in progress on children, right?  sysfs has never allowed such things
> && AFAIK no one does that.  It's somewhat implied in the interface (such
> as recursive removing) but I fully agree it's problematic.  Things like
> these are why I think we need to unify/simplify locking as I wrote
> previously.

All it takes is kobject_rename() or kobject_move() called asynchronously 
wrt removal...  I don't see an explicit ban for that.

FWIW, what happens here *is* fishy, but I don't see an outright ban on
that in documentation - rfcomm_tty_open() does
                device_move(dev->tty_dev, rfcomm_get_device(dev));
when we get openers, rfcomm_tty_close() does
                device_move(dev->tty_dev, NULL);
when the number of openers hits zero.  Can happen repeatedly.

Note that device_move() with new parent being NULL is explicitly allowed
and handled, so...

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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>,
	Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:35:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080106033537.GT27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478042F3.7010002@gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 11:54:43AM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> That means sysfs_remove_dir() is called on parent while other operations
> are in progress on children, right?  sysfs has never allowed such things
> && AFAIK no one does that.  It's somewhat implied in the interface (such
> as recursive removing) but I fully agree it's problematic.  Things like
> these are why I think we need to unify/simplify locking as I wrote
> previously.

All it takes is kobject_rename() or kobject_move() called asynchronously 
wrt removal...  I don't see an explicit ban for that.

FWIW, what happens here *is* fishy, but I don't see an outright ban on
that in documentation - rfcomm_tty_open() does
                device_move(dev->tty_dev, rfcomm_get_device(dev));
when we get openers, rfcomm_tty_close() does
                device_move(dev->tty_dev, NULL);
when the number of openers hits zero.  Can happen repeatedly.

Note that device_move() with new parent being NULL is explicitly allowed
and handled, so...

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-06  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-28 17:32 [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs Gabor Gombas
2007-12-28 17:32 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-12-29  8:07 ` [Bluez-devel] " Dave Young
2007-12-29  8:07   ` Dave Young
2008-01-02 14:48   ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-02 14:48     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-02 15:16   ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-03 13:16     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-04  1:05       ` Dave Young
2008-01-04  1:05         ` Dave Young
2008-01-07  8:07         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  8:07           ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 14:10         ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 14:10           ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-05  7:50     ` Al Viro
2008-01-05  7:50       ` Al Viro
2008-01-05 14:30       ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-05 14:30         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-05 19:45         ` Al Viro
2008-01-05 19:45           ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:07           ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  2:07             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  2:18             ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:18               ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:54               ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  2:54                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  3:35                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-01-06  3:35                   ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  3:54                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  2:37             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  2:37               ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  8:21               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07  8:21                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07  9:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:17                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:18                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:18                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:22                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-07  9:22                       ` Al Viro
2008-01-07 10:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07 10:33                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07 14:13       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 14:13         ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 15:24         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 15:24           ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 21:00           ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 21:00             ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-08  9:42             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-08 13:32               ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-08 13:32                 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-09  9:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-09  9:16                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-09 15:57                   ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-10  1:11                   ` Dave Young
2008-01-10  1:11                     ` Dave Young
2008-01-11 23:09                     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-11 23:09                       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-14  7:05                       ` Dave Young
2008-01-14 12:52                         ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-15  1:57                           ` Dave Young
2008-01-16  1:02                             ` Dave Young
2008-01-16 23:06                               ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-17  7:24                                 ` Dave Young
2008-01-17  8:15                                   ` Dave Young
2008-01-17 11:42                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-18  3:37                                       ` Dave Young
2008-01-18  9:19                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-18 10:23                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-18 10:34                                             ` Dave Young
2008-01-18 11:26                                               ` Cornelia Huck
2008-01-21  3:15                                                 ` Dave Young
2008-01-21 15:09                                                   ` [Patch] Driver core: Cleanup get_device_parent() in device_add() and device_move() Cornelia Huck
2008-01-10 10:15                   ` [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs Gabor Gombas
2008-01-10 10:15                     ` Gabor Gombas

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