[Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Alexey Eremenko]

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Hi all,

I would like to be helpful, and join as a BETA tester to the Qemu community.
However, to be effective I need the right tools to successfully accomplish
my mission. One tool that I would really like to have is a Qemu bugzilla.

Would that be possible to add Qemu bugzilla to the main Qemu site (
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/index.html), please ?

Thanks in advance,
-- 
-Alexey Eremenko "Technologov", Qumranet QA team member

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Andreas Färber]

Hi,

Am 06.01.2008 um 19:56 schrieb Alexey Eremenko:

> I would like to be helpful, and join as a BETA tester to the Qemu  
> community. However, to be effective I need the right tools to  
> successfully accomplish my mission. One tool that I would really  
> like to have is a Qemu bugzilla.
>
> Would that be possible to add Qemu bugzilla to the main Qemu site (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/index.html 
> ), please ?

While QEMU is officially still in alpha stage ;) I'd agree that an  
issue tracking system can be useful.
However I doubt it'll be possible to host a Bugzilla at free.fr.

Andreas

Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Soren Hansen]

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On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 08:06:28PM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> I would like to be helpful, and join as a BETA tester to the Qemu
>> community. However, to be effective I need the right tools to
>> successfully accomplish my mission. One tool that I would really like
>> to have is a Qemu bugzilla.
>>
>> Would that be possible to add Qemu bugzilla to the main Qemu site 
>> (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/index.html), please ?
> While QEMU is officially still in alpha stage ;) I'd agree that an
> issue tracking system can be useful.  However I doubt it'll be
> possible to host a Bugzilla at free.fr.

I'm sure Launchpad.net would be happy to host QEMU's bug tracking
system.

-- 
Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Server Team
http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 08:12:48PM +0100, Soren Hansen wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 08:06:28PM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote:
> >> I would like to be helpful, and join as a BETA tester to the Qemu
> >> community. However, to be effective I need the right tools to
> >> successfully accomplish my mission. One tool that I would really like
> >> to have is a Qemu bugzilla.
> >>
> >> Would that be possible to add Qemu bugzilla to the main Qemu site 
> >> (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/index.html), please ?
> > While QEMU is officially still in alpha stage ;) I'd agree that an
> > issue tracking system can be useful.  However I doubt it'll be
> > possible to host a Bugzilla at free.fr.
> 
> I'm sure Launchpad.net would be happy to host QEMU's bug tracking
> system.

It'd be rather strange to host it on Ubuntu bug tracker, given that QEMU is
already hosted on the FSF project hosting infrastructure (http://nongnu.org)
which provides bug tracking services. They're simply not enabled for the
QEMU project currently.

Regards,
Dan.
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Soren Hansen]

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On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 07:56:11PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>> Would that be possible to add Qemu bugzilla to the main Qemu site
>>>> (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/index.html), please ?
>>> While QEMU is officially still in alpha stage ;) I'd agree that an
>>> issue tracking system can be useful.  However I doubt it'll be
>>> possible to host a Bugzilla at free.fr.
>> I'm sure Launchpad.net would be happy to host QEMU's bug tracking
>> system.
> It'd be rather strange to host it on Ubuntu bug tracker,

It's a common misconception that Launchpad is "Ubuntu bug tracker".
Although Ubuntu is the most active project using Launchpad, Launchpad is
not specific to Ubuntu at all. There are almost 5000 projects registered
on Launchpad. Only one of them is Ubuntu.

> given that QEMU is already hosted on the FSF project hosting
> infrastructure (http://nongnu.org) which provides bug tracking
> services. They're simply not enabled for the QEMU project currently.

If I'm not much mistaken, the nongnu.org bug tracker is quite similar to
the one on sourceforge? Personally, I find the Sourceforge bug tracker
to be quite terrible, so if they are indeed similar, I'd like to put
down a loud vote against using it.

-- 
Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Server Team
http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Alexey Eremenko]

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Well, the bugzilla doesn't have to be on the main site, but a _link_ to the
"official" Qemu bugzilla should exist from the main site.

-- 
-Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Julian Seward]

> [discussion about where to host a bugzilla]

Perhaps a more important question is, is there interest in making 
a stable branch, tracking bugs and producing bug-fix-only releases
from the stable branch?  As is traditional in (eg) gcc, etc?  If not,
I don't think there is much point in having a bugzilla.

> While QEMU is officially still in alpha stage ;) I'd agree that an
> issue tracking system can be useful.

It could be argued that QEMU would be more likely to move beyond
alpha state if these traditional kinds of QA mechanisms were actually
put into place and then used.

J

Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Andreas Färber]

Am 07.01.2008 um 21:38 schrieb Julian Seward:

> Perhaps a more important question is, is there interest in making
> a stable branch, tracking bugs and producing bug-fix-only releases
> from the stable branch?  As is traditional in (eg) gcc, etc?  If not,
> I don't think there is much point in having a bugzilla.

Bugzilla can also be used to track pending patches so that they are  
not forgotten and need to be re-sent.

And there are also issues (bugs and enhancements) without having a  
stable branch. For example, the big issue of GCC4, or now 0.9.1 is  
being released although it no longer builds on OSX due to missing  
LDFLAGS (not the main platform, I know, but seems fixable), or  
regressions in sparc32 emulation etc. There's not a lack of things to  
be tracked. Tracking those wouldn't strictly require bug-fix-only  
releases but it would help with the QA of the occasional releases made.

Andreas

Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Rob Landley]

On Monday 07 January 2008 14:38:54 Julian Seward wrote:
> > [discussion about where to host a bugzilla]
>
> Perhaps a more important question is, is there interest in making
> a stable branch, tracking bugs and producing bug-fix-only releases
> from the stable branch?  As is traditional in (eg) gcc, etc?  If not,
> I don't think there is much point in having a bugzilla.

Note that a stable bugfix-only branch doesn't have to be maintained by the 
same person who maintains the development branch, and often these _are_ 
different people.

The main limiting factor is a volunteer to do the work.  You can always do 
an "unofficial" bugfix-only release and get it blessed later.  (That's how 
the Windows and MacOS X binary releases seem to work.)

Rob
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Lauro Ramos Venancio]

> The main limiting factor is a volunteer to do the work.  You can always do
> an "unofficial" bugfix-only release and get it blessed later.  (That's how
> the Windows and MacOS X binary releases seem to work.)

I would like to volunteer me to maintain a stable branch (and
eventually a bug track) . In 2008, I will work full time on qemu and I
will need a stable version.

Lauro Ramos Venancio
OpenBossa Labs - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia
Recife - Brazil

RE: [Qemu-devel] Request for Qemu bugzilla

[Alexey Eremenko]

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Hi Lauro Ramos Venancio !

>I would like to volunteer me to maintain a stable branch (and eventually a bug track) . 
>In 2008, I will work full time on qemu and I will need a stable version.

I fully support the idea of having stable branch.

Count me in, as your stable-branch BETA-tester :)

-Alexey Technologov, Qumranet QA Team member. 08.jan.2008.

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