From: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>
To: "Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@saeurebad.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
clameter@sgi.com, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Why is the kfree() argument const?
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:53:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080118145343.GR25527@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080118133116.GA31790@atjola.homenet>
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 02:31:16PM +0100, Björn Steinbrink wrote:
...
>
> Do you see anything that casts the const away? No? Me neither. Still,
> the memory that p points to was changed, because there was another
> pointer and that was not const.
*another* being key here.
>
> > *That* is the purpose of const pointers.
>
> The only thing that const can tell you is that you should not modify the
> value _yourself_, using that pointer _directly_.
Which is pretty damn useful.
Think about it. Don't you ever use const? Is it ever only in the way?
...
{snip long explanation about how one can avoid the benefits of const, without
using casts}
...
> If you want to restrict the set of pointers that can be invalidated by
> an other pointer, you'll have to use something else because const does
> not talk about invalidating aliasing pointers.
Precisely, so why are we discussing this?
I claim that const is useful. You claim that it can't solve all the worlds
problems. I agree with that, but I maintain it is still useful.
But, in order for it to be useful, it requires that people do not circumvent it
in the wrong places (such as kfree).
--
/ jakob
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKIEGIJJAC.davids@webmaster.com>
2008-01-17 21:25 ` Why is the kfree() argument const? Linus Torvalds
2008-01-17 22:28 ` David Schwartz
2008-01-17 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 0:56 ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 5:02 ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18 15:38 ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-18 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-18 20:55 ` David Schwartz
2008-01-18 17:37 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 18:06 ` DM
2008-01-18 7:51 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2008-01-18 8:20 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2008-01-18 13:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2008-01-18 17:24 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 22:29 ` J.A. Magallón
2008-01-18 23:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-18 13:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2008-01-18 19:14 ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 19:31 ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-18 19:55 ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 8:30 ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 9:48 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-18 11:47 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-01-18 14:39 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-18 19:06 ` Vadim Lobanov
2008-01-18 13:31 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-01-18 14:53 ` Jakob Oestergaard [this message]
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2013-01-12 19:18 ` antoine.trux
2013-01-13 8:10 ` Chen Gang F T
2013-01-13 17:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-01-14 1:45 ` Chen Gang F T
2013-01-13 20:54 ` Cong Ding
2013-01-14 1:18 ` Chen Gang F T
2008-01-18 19:10 ecolbus
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-18 16:45 ecolbus
2008-01-18 18:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-01-18 12:45 ecolbus
2008-01-18 15:20 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-01-16 16:32 Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-16 17:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-16 17:45 ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-01-16 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 22:19 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 22:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-16 22:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 23:13 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-01-16 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 22:33 ` Steven Rostedt
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