From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:04:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080123120446.GF15848@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080123105246.GG26420@sgi.com>
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:52:47AM -0600, Robin Holt wrote:
> But 100 callouts holding spinlocks will not work for our implementation
> and even if the callouts are made with spinlocks released, we would very
> strongly prefer a single callout which messages the range to the other
> side.
But you take the physical address and turn into mm+va with your rmap...
> > Also, our rmap key for finding the spte is keyed on (mm, va). I imagine
> > most RDMA cards are similar.
>
> For our RDMA rmap, it is based upon physical address.
so why do you turn it into mm+va?
> >> There is only the need to walk twice for pages that are marked Exported.
> >> And the double walk is only necessary if the exporter does not have its
> >> own rmap. The cross partition thing that we are doing has such an rmap and
> >> its a matter of walking the exporters rmap to clear out the external
> >> references and then we walk the local rmaps. All once.
> >>
> >
> > The problem is that external mmus need a reverse mapping structure to
> > locate their ptes. We can't expand struct page so we need to base it on mm
> > + va.
>
> Our rmap takes a physical address and turns it into mm+va.
Why don't you stick to mm+va and use get_user_pages and let the VM do
the swapins etc...?
> > Can they wait on that bit?
>
> PageLocked(page) should work, right? We already have a backoff
> mechanism so we expect to be able to adapt it to include a
> PageLocked(page) check.
It's not PageLocked but wait_on_page___not___exported() called on the
master node. Plus nothing in the VM of the master node calls
SetPageExported... good luck to make it work (KVM swapping OTOH works
like a charm already w/o the backwards secondary-TLB-flushing order).
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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:04:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080123120446.GF15848@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080123105246.GG26420@sgi.com>
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:52:47AM -0600, Robin Holt wrote:
> But 100 callouts holding spinlocks will not work for our implementation
> and even if the callouts are made with spinlocks released, we would very
> strongly prefer a single callout which messages the range to the other
> side.
But you take the physical address and turn into mm+va with your rmap...
> > Also, our rmap key for finding the spte is keyed on (mm, va). I imagine
> > most RDMA cards are similar.
>
> For our RDMA rmap, it is based upon physical address.
so why do you turn it into mm+va?
> >> There is only the need to walk twice for pages that are marked Exported.
> >> And the double walk is only necessary if the exporter does not have its
> >> own rmap. The cross partition thing that we are doing has such an rmap and
> >> its a matter of walking the exporters rmap to clear out the external
> >> references and then we walk the local rmaps. All once.
> >>
> >
> > The problem is that external mmus need a reverse mapping structure to
> > locate their ptes. We can't expand struct page so we need to base it on mm
> > + va.
>
> Our rmap takes a physical address and turns it into mm+va.
Why don't you stick to mm+va and use get_user_pages and let the VM do
the swapins etc...?
> > Can they wait on that bit?
>
> PageLocked(page) should work, right? We already have a backoff
> mechanism so we expect to be able to adapt it to include a
> PageLocked(page) check.
It's not PageLocked but wait_on_page___not___exported() called on the
master node. Plus nothing in the VM of the master node calls
SetPageExported... good luck to make it work (KVM swapping OTOH works
like a charm already w/o the backwards secondary-TLB-flushing order).
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2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-13 16:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-13 16:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-13 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-13 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-13 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-14 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-14 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15 4:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 4:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 4:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-15 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-15 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-15 20:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 20:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 20:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16 1:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 1:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 9:01 ` Brice Goglin
2008-01-16 9:01 ` Brice Goglin
2008-01-16 10:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 10:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-16 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-16 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-16 17:48 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-16 17:48 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-16 17:48 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 18:21 ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 19:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-21 12:52 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-21 12:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-21 12:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 2:21 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 2:21 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 2:21 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-22 14:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-22 14:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-22 14:43 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 14:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 14:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:08 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:34 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 22:31 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:53 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 22:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 22:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 10:27 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 10:27 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 10:27 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 10:52 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 10:52 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 10:52 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-01-23 12:04 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:34 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:34 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:34 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:58 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:58 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:58 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:47 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 5:56 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 5:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 5:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 12:26 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 12:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 12:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 12:34 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 11:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 11:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:32 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:32 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:32 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 17:33 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 20:27 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 20:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 20:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 20:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-25 6:35 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-25 6:35 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-25 6:35 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 14:34 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:41 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:18 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 20:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 20:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36 ` [kvm-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-22 23:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-22 23:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 0:40 ` [kvm-devel] " Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 0:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 0:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 1:21 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 1:21 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 1:21 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51 ` [kvm-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 12:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 12:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 13:19 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 13:19 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 13:19 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:18 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:18 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:18 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:35 ` [kvm-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 15:48 ` [kvm-devel] " Robin Holt
2008-01-23 15:48 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 15:48 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 4:03 ` [kvm-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-24 4:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-24 4:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41 ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 17:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 17:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 17:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-24 6:01 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 6:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 6:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 6:45 ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-24 6:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 2:00 ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
2008-01-24 2:00 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-24 2:00 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-24 4:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-24 4:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-24 4:05 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 19:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-01-22 22:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-01-22 22:10 ` Hugh Dickins
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