From: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:22:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080221132252.GC14614@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080220171316.GA4749@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:13:16PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > A third option would be if people add new functions (with no users) in
> > -rc2 or -rc3 timeframes as long as it is part of a fully reviewed
> > patch with users that will use those new features in various kernel
> > development trees.
> >...
>
> I don't like suggestions based on unrealistic assumptions like
> "a fully reviewed patch".
>
> E.g. userspace ABI's are much more stable and everyone is aware that
> they must be gotten right with the first try since they are then cast in
> stone - but we all remember the recent timerfd fiasco.
I'm talking about kernel interfaces, not userspace API's. And we can
change them if they are wrong, since they *are* kernel interfaces; but
if they correct, they ease the cross-tree merge pain.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-21 13:24 UTC|newest]
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2008-02-12 1:02 Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 1:36 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 2:23 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 3:32 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 2:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-13 12:53 ` Frank Seidel
2008-02-19 0:45 ` Frank Seidel
2008-02-13 20:24 ` Ann Davis
2008-02-13 20:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 4:21 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 4:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 5:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 5:53 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 6:07 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 16:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 17:04 ` John W. Linville
2008-02-12 18:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 0:12 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 19:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 0:50 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:38 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 2:20 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:47 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-13 15:06 ` John W. Linville
2008-02-13 16:45 ` Joel Becker
2008-02-13 4:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 5:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 17:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-14 17:35 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-15 17:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 23:51 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 23:54 ` Al Viro
2008-02-13 0:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 0:48 ` Al Viro
2008-02-13 0:56 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-13 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:25 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 15:32 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 16:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 6:11 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 6:21 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-02-12 16:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 16:46 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 17:03 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 17:38 ` Roland Dreier
2008-02-12 17:41 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 17:53 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:25 ` Benny Halevy
2008-02-12 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 18:24 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:19 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:05 ` Russell King
2008-02-13 12:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 12:19 ` Russell King
2008-02-12 19:41 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 21:51 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 22:41 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 23:01 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 23:27 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:55 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:59 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-12 23:26 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:07 ` Russell King
2008-02-13 0:36 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:25 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 0:33 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 20:18 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-02-12 21:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 0:27 ` David Miller
2008-02-17 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-02-12 17:48 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 19:15 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 19:46 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 20:50 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:08 ` Al Viro
2008-02-12 21:20 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 10:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-13 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 20:48 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 21:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-12 23:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-15 23:23 ` Russell King
2008-02-15 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-15 23:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-16 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:17 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:25 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-13 17:12 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-13 18:08 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-15 23:05 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-16 0:03 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-13 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-15 22:59 ` Roel Kluin
2008-02-13 0:41 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:47 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 1:23 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 7:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-13 8:45 ` distributed module configuration [Was: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))] Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 8:54 ` distributed module configuration David Miller
2008-02-13 9:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 9:06 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 10:09 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-02-17 15:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-14 0:56 ` distributed module configuration [Was: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))] Roman Zippel
2008-02-14 8:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-14 22:38 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-13 0:31 ` Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) David Miller
2008-02-12 18:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 20:03 ` Russell King
2008-02-12 20:23 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 17:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-12 23:58 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 0:29 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 0:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:24 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-13 10:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-02-13 6:16 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 7:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-02-16 11:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-02-13 10:36 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-13 17:55 ` Greg KH
2008-02-13 10:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2008-02-13 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 1:16 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-13 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:20 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 1:46 ` David Miller
2008-02-13 2:25 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 3:00 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 3:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 3:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-13 5:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-13 4:10 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 5:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-02-13 4:19 ` Paul Mundt
2008-02-13 4:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-02-12 4:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-12 5:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-12 6:02 ` David Miller
2008-02-12 7:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-12 22:44 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-12 6:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-12 11:57 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 14:57 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 8:14 ` Russell King
2008-02-14 12:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-14 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-14 18:32 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 20:32 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 20:39 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-15 6:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 6:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 9:26 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-15 14:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-02-15 1:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-20 14:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-20 15:38 ` Stefan Richter
2008-02-20 15:42 ` Theodore Tso
2008-02-20 17:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-21 13:22 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-02-12 5:07 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 5:56 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 6:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-12 16:24 ` multiple drivers, single device (was Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))) Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 16:42 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 17:42 ` multiple drivers, single device Roland Dreier
2008-02-12 17:51 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 17:56 ` multiple drivers, single device (was Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-))) Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 18:10 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 18:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-12 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-12 21:38 ` Greg KH
2008-02-12 22:34 ` Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-12 18:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-13 1:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-02-13 5:03 ` Kumar Gala
2008-02-14 23:22 ` Roland Dreier
2008-02-15 1:02 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-16 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-17 5:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-17 14:27 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-16 0:09 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:31 ` Russell King
2008-02-16 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-16 0:42 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-02-16 8:08 ` Russell King
2008-02-26 3:54 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-29 12:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-02-29 13:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-29 23:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
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