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From: Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	adilger@sun.com, David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
	jack@ucw.cz, "Feld, Andy" <Feld_Andy@emc.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: background on the ext3 batching performance issue
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:05:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200802281005.13068.jbacik@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C6A46D.8020700@emc.com>

On Thursday 28 February 2008 7:09:17 am Ric Wheeler wrote:
> At the LSF workshop, I mentioned that we have tripped across an
> embarrassing performance issue in the jbd transaction code which is
> clearly not tuned for low latency devices.
>
> The short summary is that we can do say 800 10k files/sec in a
> write/fsync/close loop with a single thread, but drop down to under 250
> files/sec with 2 or more threads.
>
> This is pretty easy to reproduce with any small file write synchronous
> workload (i.e., fsync() each file before close).  We used my fs_mark
> tool to reproduce.
>
> The core of the issue is the call in the jbd transaction code call out
> to schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1) which causes us to sleep for 4ms:
>
>         pid = current->pid;
>         if (handle->h_sync && journal->j_last_sync_writer != pid) {
>                 journal->j_last_sync_writer = pid;
>                 do {
>                         old_handle_count = transaction->t_handle_count;
>                         schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
>                 } while (old_handle_count != transaction->t_handle_count);
>         }
>
> This is quite topical to the concern we had with low latency devices in
> general, but specifically things like SSD's.
>

Your testcase does in fact show a weakness in this optimization, but look at the 
more likely case, where you have multiple writers on the same filesystem rather 
than one guy doing write/fsync.  If we wait we could potentially add quite a 
few more buffers to this transaction before flushing it, rather than flushing a 
buffer or two at a time.  What would you propose as a solution?

Josef

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-28 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-28 12:09 background on the ext3 batching performance issue Ric Wheeler
2008-02-28 15:05 ` Josef Bacik [this message]
2008-02-28 15:41   ` Josef Bacik
2008-02-28 13:03     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-02-28 13:09     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-02-28 16:41       ` Jan Kara
2008-02-28 17:02       ` Chris Mason
2008-02-28 17:13         ` Jan Kara
2008-02-28 17:35           ` Chris Mason
2008-02-28 18:15             ` Jan Kara
2008-02-28 17:54       ` David Chinner
2008-02-28 19:48         ` Ric Wheeler
2008-02-29 14:52         ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-05 19:19         ` some hard numbers on ext3 & " Ric Wheeler
2008-03-05 20:20           ` Josef Bacik
2008-03-07 20:08             ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-07 20:40               ` Josef Bacik
2008-03-07 20:45                 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-12 18:37                   ` Josef Bacik
2008-03-13 11:26                     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-06  0:28           ` David Chinner

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