From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [patch 2.6.25-rc6 3/7] pci_choose_state() cleanup and fixes
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:55:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803221055.12541.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803211723.17685.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Friday 21 March 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > You seem to object to letting drivers offload this particular
> > bit of work to infrastructure.
>
> No, I don't. I just don't think it's a good idea to change the existing and
> widely used function for this purpose. If I needed some specific functionality
> at the infrastructure level, I'd add a new function for that with a new
> changelog etc. Then, made drivers switch to that and remove the old one.
I see that a lot of drivers have at some point, not long ago,
been converted to use this routine. They previously just
used PCI_D3 in all cases.
It seems to me that your objection boils down to the concern
that those drivers may just have pushed their bug out a level,
rather than actually fixing their bugs.
Which I can sympathize with ... but that doesn't change the
fact that any driver in that position *still* has a bug that
needs to be fixed. And if that bug is highlighted by this
patch ... well, there's still a driver bug to be fixed.
> > > [Note that with the new suspend/hibernation callbacks there
> > > won't be the pm_message_t argument to pass to pci_choose_state().]
> >
> > The pm_message_t will necessarily linger until all drivers have
> > been converted and re-tested. Which can't be an overnight thing.
>
> No, it can't. Still, suppose a driver is using the new callbacks. How is
> it supposed to use pci_choose_state()?
Hey, you're the one providing those callbacks. How were you
going to answer that question *before* I posted this overdue
bugfix patch for pci_choose_state()?
- Dave
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-22 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-20 21:08 [patch 2.6.25-rc6 0/7] misc pm wake patches David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:09 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 1/7] crosslink ACPI and "real" device nodes David Brownell
2008-03-21 6:43 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21 7:31 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 7:31 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 8:34 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21 8:34 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21 9:04 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 9:04 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 6:43 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-20 21:09 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:10 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 2/7] acpi_pm_device_sleep_state() cleanup David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:10 ` David Brownell
2008-03-24 16:30 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-03-24 16:30 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-19 4:11 ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:33 ` [RE-RESEND patch 2.6.25-git] " David Brownell
2008-04-29 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 22:12 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 22:12 ` David Brownell
2008-04-30 12:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-30 12:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 20:33 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:12 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 3/7] pci_choose_state() cleanup and fixes David Brownell
2008-03-20 22:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 22:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:03 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 0:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 0:55 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-21 0:55 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-21 1:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 1:47 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 8:15 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 8:15 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 16:23 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:55 ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 17:55 ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-03-22 18:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:11 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 7:53 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 7:53 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 16:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-21 16:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 17:49 ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 4:59 ` David Brownell
2008-04-14 4:59 ` David Brownell
2008-03-22 17:49 ` David Brownell
2008-03-21 0:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-20 23:03 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:12 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:15 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 4/7] USB uses pci_choose_state() David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:15 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:20 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 5/7] ACPI sets up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-21 7:43 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-21 7:43 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-19 4:14 ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22 2:48 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-22 2:48 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-19 4:14 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:20 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 5/7] " David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:22 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 6/7] ACPI uses device_may_wakeup() policy inputs David Brownell
2008-04-19 4:18 ` [RESEND patch 2.6.25] " David Brownell
2008-04-22 2:42 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-26 19:29 ` David Brownell
2008-04-26 19:29 ` David Brownell
2008-04-22 2:42 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-22 13:30 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-26 19:37 ` David Brownell
2008-04-26 19:37 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 12:48 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-28 8:50 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-28 13:43 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-04-29 23:38 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 23:38 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2008-04-30 13:58 ` Alan Stern
2008-05-14 14:56 ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-14 14:56 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-04-30 13:58 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-28 13:43 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-28 22:28 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:28 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 8:50 ` Zhang Rui
2008-04-28 21:35 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-28 21:35 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-28 22:20 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-29 0:20 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 0:20 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:54 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-04-29 20:32 ` David Brownell
2008-04-29 20:32 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:20 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:24 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:24 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:26 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 22:26 ` David Brownell
2008-04-28 12:48 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-04-22 13:30 ` Zhao Yakui
2008-03-20 21:22 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 6/7] " David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:25 ` [patch 2.6.25-rc6 7/7] PCI set up device.power.can_wakeup flags David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:53 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 21:53 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-03-20 22:22 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 22:22 ` David Brownell
2008-03-20 21:25 ` David Brownell
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