ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

[Matti Aarnio]

.. and is available at:

   http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/libax25/

It includes F6BVF's "2src" patches, and works with 

  libax25-0.0.13

in the same directory.
However it really is not tested in any way aside of
"it compiles !"   Quick look into the source codes
does suggest that many modernization things are
possible...




In the package of ax25-apps 0.0.7  is integrated
RPM SPEC file for building the thing at RPM using
systems (Fedora 8/9 tested, SuSE should work too)
Debian files have not been retrieved and merged into
this package.


We really should coordinate a well centralized
high-quality and modern release with all package
building auxiliaries into single tar-file.

I would prefer Sourceforge, but package keepers
there have abandoned the project.

  /Matti Aarnio - OH2MQK  <oh2mqk@sral.fi>

NO such version - ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

[Thomas Osterried]

Hello,

>   libax25-0.0.13
[...]

Unfortunately, the numbering scheme Matti has choosen is confusing.
This is, because there is no official version like libax25-0.0.13,
libax25-0.0.12. The same is also right for ax25-apps or -tools.

This raised some questions, because other people already use the cvs
version (see below), and if they'd look at the here claimed "new version
x.y.", they'd look on an old code base.

libax25-0.0.11 (still downloadable from sf.net) is the latest offical
relaseed version. ax25-tools is 0.0.8 and libax25 is 0.0.11.


Actually i even do not know exactly what was promised to be changed in
Matti's packages.


After that last official released version, we develloped in the cvs.
Not at sf.net any more (for various reasons - one was, that it had months
of trouble), but on linux-ax25.org.

Personaly, i'm a bit disappointed. Nearly nobody sent any patch for fixes
or features or did a feature request. Nobody asked when the release is
expected, what is missing and how he could help (i.e. in building packages
in their wide variety of formats, and for multible architectures. Or by
managing a preview-release). Neither by developers, nor by the linux
distributors, nor by users. Silence.


On the other hand, i'll get the hope that the ax25 stuff gets a vivid
revival (people still seem to be interested in).

The CVS access is documented at linux-ax25.org:
  http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/CVS

  cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs login
  password is "cvs"
  cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-apps
  cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-tools
  cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co libax25

After checkout, first do "sh bootstrap" in each directory; this generates
the make files.

And please do not forget to talk about, when you get into problems,
a fix is missing, etc..

Give Feedback ;)

73,
	- Thomas  dl9sau

Re: NO such version - ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

[Ralf Baechle DL5RB]

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:04:10AM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:

> The CVS access is documented at linux-ax25.org:
>   http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/CVS
> 
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs login
>   password is "cvs"
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-apps
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-tools
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co libax25
> 
> After checkout, first do "sh bootstrap" in each directory; this generates
> the make files.
> 
> And please do not forget to talk about, when you get into problems,
> a fix is missing, etc..

linux-ax25.org's server machine is currently being shipped to CT and I
expect it's arrival there in a new comfy 19" rack in another one or
two day's time.  Until then I will only be able to maintain somewhat
limited servers.  That is the linux-ax25.org wikis and CVS archive are
reachable but only at rather low bandwidth; cvsweb is currently not
working.

73 de DL5RB op Ralf

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Re: NO such version - ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

[Matti Aarnio]

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:04:10AM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> >   libax25-0.0.13
> [...]
> 
> Unfortunately, the numbering scheme Matti has choosen is confusing.
> This is, because there is no official version like libax25-0.0.13,
> libax25-0.0.12. The same is also right for ax25-apps or -tools.

As there is no mention at sf.net about development having been
moved elsewere, realizing that ax25 libs/tools/apps have not been
abandoned is not easy thing.

If you could be bothered to update the sf.net web about this move,
it would cut down a lot of the confusion.


> This raised some questions, because other people already use the cvs
> version (see below), and if they'd look at the here claimed "new version
> x.y.", they'd look on an old code base.
> 
> libax25-0.0.11 (still downloadable from sf.net) is the latest offical
> relaseed version. ax25-tools is 0.0.8 and libax25 is 0.0.11.
> 
> Actually i even do not know exactly what was promised to be changed in
> Matti's packages.


Probably because this is first time you notice them ?

Well, similarly on weekend I was considering taking over the
ax25.sourceforge.net and posted against any hope(*) an email
to you about it -- and for the first time heard of  linux-ax25.org.

It really is not that well known.

*) "against any hope" = "that project appears to be abandoned, and
    their emails probably will not work and/or they won't answer..."


It looks like you made similar changes to  axconfig.c  that I did
a few months ago -- except that I didn't make it conditional to some
future kernel fix, and I made similar (practically the same - as my
axconfig.c change) changes on  nrconfig.c  and on  rsconfig.c

Also the new autoconfig machinery is basically same as what I did
independently.  I had used a bit newer config.guess, but that is
probably just fine.  I picked also newer  depcomp  and  ltmain.sh,
the latter does matter a bit on development package library building.


> After that last official released version, we develloped in the cvs.
> Not at sf.net any more (for various reasons - one was, that it had months
> of trouble), but on linux-ax25.org.
> 
> Personaly, i'm a bit disappointed. Nearly nobody sent any patch for fixes
> or features or did a feature request. Nobody asked when the release is
> expected, what is missing and how he could help (i.e. in building packages
> in their wide variety of formats, and for multible architectures. Or by
> managing a preview-release). Neither by developers, nor by the linux
> distributors, nor by users. Silence.

Like I said above, silently moving elsewere without marking it at
previous webs is an excellent way to appear to abandon the project.
(However crappy the sf.net was for a while.)


> On the other hand, i'll get the hope that the ax25 stuff gets a vivid
> revival (people still seem to be interested in).
> 
> The CVS access is documented at linux-ax25.org:
>   http://www.linux-ax25.org/wiki/CVS
> 
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs login
>   password is "cvs"
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-apps
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co ax25-tools
>   cvs -d :pserver:cvs@cvs.linux-ax25.org:/home/ax25-cvs co libax25

Not that your servers are all that excellent (at least yet)

  [mea@mea libax25]$ cvs log axconfig.h 
  cvs [log aborted]: connect to [cvs.linux-ax25.org]:2401 failed: No route to host

It worked 15 minutes ago...
.. and 30 minutes latter it works again.


> After checkout, first do "sh bootstrap" in each directory; this generates
> the make files.
> 
> And please do not forget to talk about, when you get into problems,
> a fix is missing, etc..
> 
> Give Feedback ;)

Where ?  At this list ?


> 73,
> 	- Thomas  dl9sau


73 de Matti, OH2MQK

Re: NO such version - ax25-apps 0.0.7 published..

[AA6QN]

Thomas Osterried wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>>   libax25-0.0.13
> [...]
> 
Maybe that why I had some problems, stated below. With the updates I 
lost my xfbb loopback port and could not load the dual port tnc using 
mkiss. If there is something that I could read to make the transition 
from the old school to the new, please direct me. I have been running 
this software for many years now and have not done much in upgrades 
other than to transition to the 2.6.25-r1 kernel. I must admit that it 
is pretty solid running on a embedded Soekris SBC.
So, If someone is kind enough to point me to the correct documentation 
that details the required configuration changes please drop a line.

73, JohnF
------------------
First, I wish to say thank you for all your hard work! I have been 
running FBB for many years now and really like the software.

Recently, I have been met with a couple of challenges. When I upgraded 
the libax25 to 13-6, I lost my FBB loopback interfaces. Guess I am old 
school and during the ax25 startup I defined two loopback interfaces:

# /etc/conf.d/rc.ax25 Create Loopback ports
/usr/local/sbin/kissnetd /dev/ptya3 /dev/ptya4 &
sleep 2
/usr/local/sbin/kissattach -l -m 256 /dev/ttya3 ax3 44.8.0.112
/usr/local/sbin/kissattach -l -m 256 /dev/ttya4 ax4 44.8.0.112
route del -net 44.0.0.0/8 ax3
route del -net 44.0.0.0/8 ax4

# /etc/ax25/axports
#  Name Callsign        speed           paclen  window  description
ax0     AA6QN-9         115200          256     7       AXIP Link
ax1     AA6QN-12        9600            256     1       1200 bps Port A 
DE (pending)
ax2     AA6QN-11        9600            256     2       9600 bps Port B 
DE 439.050 MHz
ax3     LOOP1           9600            256     4       Loopback 1
ax4     LOOP2           9600            256     4       Loopback 2

Then in /usr/local/etc/ax25/fbb/port.sys where-as ax4 is the loopback

#TNC NbCh Com MultCh Pacln Maxfr NbFwd MxBloc M/P-Fwd Mode  Freq
  0   0    0   0         0  0     0      0     00/01   ----  File-fwd.
  1   4    1   ax1     250  1     2     10     10/60   XUWY pending
  2   4    1   ax2     250  1     2     10     20/60   XUWY 439.050
  3   4    1   ax0     250  2     2     10     30/30   XUWY ax0
  4   4    1   ax4     250  4     2     10     30/60   XUWY ax4
  5   2    1   netbbs  236  1     1     10     30/30   XUWY netrom
  6   2    2   0       250  2     1     10      0/60   TUWY telnet
#

This all works great with libax25-0.0.11-4 but not libax25-0.0.13-6
What did I miss? is there a new way to link FBB to the AX25 resources?

I also tried to update to ax25-tools-0.0.9-3 but mkiss did not load my 
dual port tnc stating it could not find the CALL. Same axport as above 
with ax1 and ax2 being the dual ported tnc. ax25-tools-0.0.8.2 does work:

#/etc/conf.d/rc.ax25# Attach Dual TNC with MKISS COM2
/usr/local/sbin/mkiss -s 9600 /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ptya0 /dev/ptya1
sleep 2
/usr/local/sbin/kissattach -l -m 256 /dev/ttya0 ax1 44.8.0.112
/usr/local/sbin/kissattach -l -m 256 /dev/ttya1 ax2 44.8.0.112
route del -net 44.0.0.0/8 ax1
route del -net 44.0.0.0/8 ax2
kissparms -p ax1 -t 30 -s 100 -r 63
kissparms -p ax2 -t 10 -s 100 -r 63


Once again, did I miss some changes in the configuration? The install 
notes were rather vague on syntax changes.

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