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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kyungmin Park <kmpark@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Michael Trimarchi <trimarchimichael@yahoo.it>,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] jffs2 summary allocation
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:41:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804041941.35075.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080404184615.deaf3122.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> This problem comes up pretty often. 

Which problem -- kmalloc(BIG)?  Or dma(dma-unsafe-mem)?
Or something else?

The specific issue here might best be described as JFFS2
making a bad assumption:  that MTD drivers never use DMA.
The I2C stack does that in some cases (for example, I/O
buffers in i2c_smbus_xfer_emulated are on-stack), but I'd
not call that an especially common assumption.


> Rather than open-coding it yet again 
> it'd be nice to have a little bit of library code which manages an array of
> pages and which has accessors for common operations like
> read/write-u8/u16/u32/u64, memset, memcpy, etc.

If array-of-pages is to be more widely adopted, that'd
make sense.  The MTD framework is a bit odd in that
respect ... it has block devices but doesn't use the
scatterlist primitives.

- Dave

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kyungmin Park <kmpark-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Michael Trimarchi <trimarchimichael-whZMOeQn8C0@public.gmane.org>,
	spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-xIg/pKzrS19vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] jffs2 summary allocation
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:41:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804041941.35075.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080404184615.deaf3122.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> This problem comes up pretty often. 

Which problem -- kmalloc(BIG)?  Or dma(dma-unsafe-mem)?
Or something else?

The specific issue here might best be described as JFFS2
making a bad assumption:  that MTD drivers never use DMA.
The I2C stack does that in some cases (for example, I/O
buffers in i2c_smbus_xfer_emulated are on-stack), but I'd
not call that an especially common assumption.


> Rather than open-coding it yet again 
> it'd be nice to have a little bit of library code which manages an array of
> pages and which has accessors for common operations like
> read/write-u8/u16/u32/u64, memset, memcpy, etc.

If array-of-pages is to be more widely adopted, that'd
make sense.  The MTD framework is a bit odd in that
respect ... it has block devices but doesn't use the
scatterlist primitives.

- Dave

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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Kyungmin Park" <kmpark@infradead.org>,
	"Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"Michael Trimarchi" <trimarchimichael@yahoo.it>,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, dwmw2@infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] jffs2 summary allocation
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:41:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200804041941.35075.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080404184615.deaf3122.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Friday 04 April 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> This problem comes up pretty often. 

Which problem -- kmalloc(BIG)?  Or dma(dma-unsafe-mem)?
Or something else?

The specific issue here might best be described as JFFS2
making a bad assumption:  that MTD drivers never use DMA.
The I2C stack does that in some cases (for example, I/O
buffers in i2c_smbus_xfer_emulated are on-stack), but I'd
not call that an especially common assumption.


> Rather than open-coding it yet again 
> it'd be nice to have a little bit of library code which manages an array of
> pages and which has accessors for common operations like
> read/write-u8/u16/u32/u64, memset, memcpy, etc.

If array-of-pages is to be more widely adopted, that'd
make sense.  The MTD framework is a bit odd in that
respect ... it has block devices but doesn't use the
scatterlist primitives.

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-05  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-04 10:23 [PATCH] jffs2 summary allocation Michael Trimarchi
2008-04-04 10:23 ` Michael Trimarchi
2008-04-04 19:48 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-04 19:48   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-04 19:48   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-04 20:09   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-04 20:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-04 20:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2008-04-04 23:09   ` David Brownell
2008-04-04 23:09     ` David Brownell
2008-04-04 23:09     ` David Brownell
2008-04-04 23:21     ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-04 23:21       ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-04 23:21       ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-04 23:58       ` David Brownell
2008-04-04 23:58         ` David Brownell
2008-04-04 23:58         ` David Brownell
2008-04-05  1:11         ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-05  1:11           ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-05  1:11           ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-05  1:29           ` Kyungmin Park
2008-04-05  1:29             ` Kyungmin Park
2008-04-05  1:29             ` Kyungmin Park
2008-04-05  1:46             ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  1:46               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  1:46               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  2:41               ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-04-05  2:41                 ` David Brownell
2008-04-05  2:41                 ` David Brownell
2008-04-05  3:27                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  3:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  3:27                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-05  2:17             ` David Brownell
2008-04-05  2:17               ` David Brownell
2008-04-05  2:17               ` David Brownell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-05 14:05 matthieu castet

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