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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kniht@linux.vnet.ibm.com, abh@cray.com, wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [patch 00/18] multi size, and giant hugetlb page support, 1GB hugetlb for x86
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:43:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080424064350.GA17886@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080424020828.GA7101@wotan.suse.de>

On 24.04.2008 [04:08:28 +0200], Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:52:23AM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > On 23.04.2008 [17:53:38 +0200], Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > It's not fully compatible. And that is bad.
> > > 
> > > It is fully compatible because if you don't actually ask for any new
> > > option then you don't get it. What you see will be exactly unchanged.
> > > If you ask for _only_ 1G pages, then this new scheme is very likely to
> > > work with well written applications wheras if you also print out the 2MB
> > > legacy values first, then they have little to no chance of working.
> > > 
> > > Then if you want legacy apps to use 2MB pages, and new ones to use 1G,
> > > then you ask for both and get the 2MB column printed in /proc/meminfo
> > > (actually it can probably get printed 2nd if you ask for 2MB pages
> > > after asking for 1G pages -- that is something I'll fix).
> > 
> > Yep, the "default hugepagesz" was something I was going to ask about. I
> > believe hugepagesz= should function kind of like console= where the
> > order matters if specified multiple times for where /dev/console points.
> > I agree with you that hugepagesz=XX hugepagesz=YY implies XX is the
> > default, and YY is the "other", regardless of their values, and that is
> > how they should be presented in meminfo.
> 
> OK, that would be fine. I was going to do it the other way and make
> 2M always come first. However so long as we document as such the
> command line parameters, I don't see why we couldn't have this extra
> flexibility (and that means I shouldn't have to write any more code ;))

Keep in mind, I did retract this to some extent in my other
reply...After thinking about Andi's points a bit more, I believe the
most flexible (not too-x86_64-centric, either) option is to have all
potential hugepage sizes be "available" at run-time. What hugepages are
allocated at boot-time is all that is specified on the kernel
command-line, in that case (and is only truly necessary for the
ginormous hugepages, and needs to be heavily documented as such).

Realistically, yes, we could have it either way (hugepagesz= determines
the order), but it shouldn't matter to well-written applications, so
keeping things reflecting current reality as much as possible does make
sense -- that is, 2M would always come first meminfo on x86_64.

If you want, I can send you a patch to do that, as I start the sysfs
patches.

Thanks,
Nish

-- 
Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
IBM Linux Technology Center

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-24  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-23  1:53 [patch 00/18] multi size, and giant hugetlb page support, 1GB hugetlb for x86 npiggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 01/18] hugetlb: fix lockdep spew npiggin
2008-04-23 13:06   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 02/18] hugetlb: factor out huge_new_page npiggin
2008-04-24 23:49   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-24 23:54   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-24 23:58     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25  7:10       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 16:54         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 19:13           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-25 19:29             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 19:16               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-30 20:44                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-01 19:23                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-01 20:25                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-01 20:34                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-01 21:01                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:03                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 03/18] mm: offset align in alloc_bootmem npiggin, Yinghai Lu
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 04/18] hugetlb: modular state npiggin
2008-04-23 15:21   ` Jon Tollefson
2008-04-23 15:38     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-25 17:13   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:02     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 20:48       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 05/18] hugetlb: multiple hstates npiggin
2008-04-25 17:38   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 17:48     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 17:55     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 17:52       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 18:10         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-28 10:13           ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-05-23  5:18     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-29 17:27   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:19     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 06/18] hugetlb: multi hstate proc files npiggin
2008-05-02 19:53   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:22     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 20:30       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 07/18] hugetlbfs: per mount hstates npiggin
2008-04-25 18:09   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 20:36     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 22:39       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-28 18:20         ` Adam Litke
2008-04-28 18:46           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:24     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 20:34       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23 22:49         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 23:24           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 08/18] hugetlb: multi hstate sysctls npiggin
2008-04-25 18:14   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:25     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 20:27       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 23:35   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:28     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 10:40       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 09/18] hugetlb: abstract numa round robin selection npiggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 10/18] mm: introduce non panic alloc_bootmem npiggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 11/18] mm: export prep_compound_page to mm npiggin
2008-04-23 16:12   ` Andrew Hastings
2008-05-23  5:29     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 12/18] hugetlbfs: support larger than MAX_ORDER npiggin
2008-04-23 16:15   ` Andrew Hastings
2008-04-23 16:25     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 18:55   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:29     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-30 21:01   ` Dave Hansen
2008-05-23  5:30     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 13/18] hugetlb: support boot allocate different sizes npiggin
2008-04-23 16:15   ` Andrew Hastings
2008-04-25 18:40   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-25 18:50     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 20:05       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:36     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23  6:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 20:32         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23 22:45           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 22:53             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 14/18] hugetlb: printk cleanup npiggin
2008-04-27  3:32   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:37     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 15/18] hugetlb: introduce huge_pud npiggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 16/18] x86: support GB hugepages on 64-bit npiggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 17/18] x86: add hugepagesz option " npiggin
2008-04-30 19:34   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 19:52     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 20:02       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 20:19         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 20:23           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 20:45             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 20:51               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 20:40     ` Jon Tollefson
2008-04-30 20:48   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23  5:41     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 10:43       ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-23 12:34         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23 14:29           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-23 20:43             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23 20:39       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-23 22:52         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  1:53 ` [patch 18/18] hugetlb: my fixes 2 npiggin
2008-04-23 10:48   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-23 15:36     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 18:49     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 19:37       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-23 21:11         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 21:38           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 22:06           ` Dave Hansen
2008-04-23 15:20   ` Jon Tollefson
2008-04-23 15:44     ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23  8:05 ` [patch 00/18] multi size, and giant hugetlb page support, 1GB hugetlb for x86 Andi Kleen
2008-04-23 15:34   ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 15:46     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-23 15:53       ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 16:02         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-23 16:02           ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 18:54           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 18:52         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-24  2:08           ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-24  6:43             ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2008-04-24  7:06               ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-24 17:08                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 18:43   ` Nishanth Aravamudan

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