From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080506190917.GA8369@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15818.1210087753@redhat.com>
> Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > While considering the impact of read_barrier_depends, it occurred to
> > me that it should really be really a noop for the compiler.
>
> If you're defining it so, then you need to adjust memory-barriers.txt too.
>
> ========================
> EXPLICIT KERNEL BARRIERS
> ========================
> ...
> CPU MEMORY BARRIERS
> -------------------
>
> The Linux kernel has eight basic CPU memory barriers:
>
> TYPE MANDATORY SMP CONDITIONAL
> =============== ======================= ===========================
> GENERAL mb() smp_mb()
> WRITE wmb() smp_wmb()
> READ rmb() smp_rmb()
> DATA DEPENDENCY read_barrier_depends() smp_read_barrier_depends()
>
>
> All CPU memory barriers unconditionally imply compiler barriers.
>
> That last line needs modification, perhaps to say:
>
> General, read and write memory barriers unconditionally imply general
> compiler barriers; data dependency barriers, however, imply a barrier
> only for the specific access being performed due to the fact that the
> instructions must be performed in a specific order.
And to make sure the compiler preserves the ordering, you also need
the ACCESS_ONCE() in the general case.
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:09:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080506190917.GA8369@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15818.1210087753@redhat.com>
> Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > While considering the impact of read_barrier_depends, it occurred to
> > me that it should really be really a noop for the compiler.
>
> If you're defining it so, then you need to adjust memory-barriers.txt too.
>
> ========================
> EXPLICIT KERNEL BARRIERS
> ========================
> ...
> CPU MEMORY BARRIERS
> -------------------
>
> The Linux kernel has eight basic CPU memory barriers:
>
> TYPE MANDATORY SMP CONDITIONAL
> =============== ======================= ===========================
> GENERAL mb() smp_mb()
> WRITE wmb() smp_wmb()
> READ rmb() smp_rmb()
> DATA DEPENDENCY read_barrier_depends() smp_read_barrier_depends()
>
>
> All CPU memory barriers unconditionally imply compiler barriers.
>
> That last line needs modification, perhaps to say:
>
> General, read and write memory barriers unconditionally imply general
> compiler barriers; data dependency barriers, however, imply a barrier
> only for the specific access being performed due to the fact that the
> instructions must be performed in a specific order.
And to make sure the compiler preserves the ordering, you also need
the ACCESS_ONCE() in the general case.
Thanx, Paul
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-06 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-05 11:20 [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 11:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 11:20 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 12:12 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 12:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 12:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 14:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 13:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 13:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13 7:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 7:55 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 13:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13 13:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-05 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-05 16:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-05 16:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06 9:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 14:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-06 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 19:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-14 4:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 8:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 8:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 0:34 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 0:34 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:35 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:37 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 4:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:26 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends arch fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-14 13:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 16:57 ` [patch 2/2] fix SMP data race in pagetable setup vs walking Hugh Dickins
2008-05-05 16:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-06 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 7:08 ` David Miller
2008-05-06 7:08 ` David Miller, Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:56 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 14:27 ` [patch 1/2] read_barrier_depends fixlets Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05 14:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 9:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 9:01 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-06 14:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 14:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-06 15:29 ` David Howells
2008-05-06 15:29 ` David Howells
2008-05-06 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-05-06 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-13 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
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