From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:03:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080521210352.GA11827@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1211303731.6252.105.camel@johannes.berg>
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 07:15:31PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Hi Johannes,
> >
> > > The /sys/class/net/*/wireless/ direcory is, as far as I know, not
> > > used by anyone. Additionally, the same data is available via wext
> > > ioctls. Hence the sysfs files are pretty much useless. This patch
> > > makes them optional and schedules them for removal.
> >
> > it is used by HAL to classify WiFi network cards as net.80211 instead
> > of net.80203 and so we do have an actual user. However HAL only tests
> > for the existence of the directory wireless/.
> >
> > Please fix HAL first before submitting such a patch.
>
> I have filed a patch to fix HAL to use the canonical SIOCGIWNAME at
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16037. Any further
> objections to this patch?
I think this is going to fall under the "userland ABI" category.
We can make it a configurable option, but I don't think we are free
to remove it completely since there is at least existing versions of
HAL that use it.
John
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From: "John W. Linville" <linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Jean Tourrilhes <jt-sDzT885Ts8HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-wireless
<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Linux Kernel list
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Subject: Re: [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:03:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080521210352.GA11827@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1211303731.6252.105.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 07:15:31PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 15:45 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Hi Johannes,
> >
> > > The /sys/class/net/*/wireless/ direcory is, as far as I know, not
> > > used by anyone. Additionally, the same data is available via wext
> > > ioctls. Hence the sysfs files are pretty much useless. This patch
> > > makes them optional and schedules them for removal.
> >
> > it is used by HAL to classify WiFi network cards as net.80211 instead
> > of net.80203 and so we do have an actual user. However HAL only tests
> > for the existence of the directory wireless/.
> >
> > Please fix HAL first before submitting such a patch.
>
> I have filed a patch to fix HAL to use the canonical SIOCGIWNAME at
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16037. Any further
> objections to this patch?
I think this is going to fall under the "userland ABI" category.
We can make it a configurable option, but I don't think we are free
to remove it completely since there is at least existing versions of
HAL that use it.
John
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-21 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-17 12:12 [RFC] make wext wireless bits optional and deprecate them Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 12:12 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 12:16 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 12:16 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 13:45 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-05-17 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 14:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-05-17 14:42 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-17 14:42 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-18 13:36 ` Dan Williams
2008-05-18 13:36 ` Dan Williams
2008-05-19 12:16 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-19 12:16 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-19 15:22 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-22 5:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-05-19 15:24 ` Dan Williams
2008-05-19 15:39 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-19 15:39 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-19 15:53 ` Dan Williams
2008-05-19 15:53 ` Dan Williams
2008-05-19 17:03 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-05-19 17:01 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-05-20 17:15 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-20 17:15 ` Johannes Berg
2008-05-20 17:28 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-05-21 21:03 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2008-05-21 21:03 ` John W. Linville
2008-05-21 21:37 ` Johannes Berg
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