From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Threading Qemu
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:28:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080528122850.GC19738@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483D0C78.8020406@qumranet.com>
Izik Eidus wrote:
> it isn't about just give thread for each virtual CPU,
> you will need to take care that atomic operations will translate
> from one architecture to another architecture as atomic
That's a bit work, but should be ok provided the host architecture has
equivalent atomic ops, or equal-or-larger-width compare-and-swap
instructions (from which you can make all atomic ops).
Don't forget that simple write ops are atomic on most architectures.
If you have to translate e.g. an 8-byte write to two 4-byte writes on
a 32-bit host, that loses the atomic write property, which many
programs depend on.
> plus you will need to take care for memory barriers, and many more things
> (it looks very complex)
Don't forget _implied_ memory write barrier after every write op on
x86 target. With x86 target on hosts where writes are not
processor-ordered like x86, you need to put a write-write barrier after
every write - except when you can prove it's not needed. But that's
really hard.
You can relax this, if you emulate particular x86 targets which have a
"weak write mode". Some Linux guests, at least, will enable weak
write mode on those - in that mode you can translate to faster code
for the non-x86 host.
Both atomiciy and ordering don't have to be solved if instead you use
"software scheduled" threads on any architecture - e.g. see GNU Pth.
Then you won't get real parallelism on a multiprocessor host, but you
can simulate any multiprocessor target correctly.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-28 12:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-28 6:31 [Qemu-devel] Threading Qemu mixado
2008-05-28 7:40 ` Izik Eidus
2008-05-28 12:27 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-28 12:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-28 12:28 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-05-28 13:31 ` Paul Brook
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2008-05-28 10:40 Mikael Regnell
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