From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Changed blk trace msgs to directly use relay buffer
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:00:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080528130056.GW25504@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483D4F73.5020503@hp.com>
On Wed, May 28 2008, Alan D. Brunelle wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Tue, May 27 2008, Alan D. Brunelle wrote:
> >
> >> From 43c8ea2b78f31d7ccd349384a9a2084e787aafc1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >> From: Alan D. Brunelle <alan.brunelle@hp.com>
> >> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:32:36 -0400
> >> Subject: [PATCH] Changed blk trace msgs to directly use relay buffer
> >>
> >> Allows for SMP-usage without corruption, and removes an extra copy at
> >> the expense of copying extra bytes. Reduced message size from 1024 to 128.
> >
> > Or, alternatively, something like the below. Then we don't
> > unconditionally reserve and copy 128 bytes for each message, at the
> > cost 128 bytes per-cpu per trace.
>
> I looked into something like this, but thought the added complexity
> wasn't worth it. Besides the extra per-cpu stuff, you also have an
> extra memcopy involved - in my patch you print directly into the relay
> buffer. I figure that /if/ copying (128-msg_size) extra bytes is too
> much, one could always shrink the 128 down further. [I would think 64
> bytes is probably ok.]
>
> I'd bet that the reduced complexity, and skipping the extra memcopy
> more than offsets having to copy a few extra bytes...
The complexity is the same imho, both versions are fairly trivial.
I wasn't out to optimize this in a memory copy sense. To me the most
precious resource is the data stream to the app, and 128 bytes
is probably 6 times larger than the normal message would be. With
the actual trace structure, we are down to about 3 times the byte
size.
So it was just an idea, I don't care much either way. With 128 bytes,
we could just put the buffer on the stack (and still do the copy to
the relay buffer). The per-cpu buffers has the advantage that we
could grow the size easily if we wanted to.
So, given everything, which do you prefer?
--
Jens Axboe
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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Changed blk trace msgs to directly use relay buffer
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:00:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080528130056.GW25504@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483D4F73.5020503@hp.com>
On Wed, May 28 2008, Alan D. Brunelle wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Tue, May 27 2008, Alan D. Brunelle wrote:
> >
> >> From 43c8ea2b78f31d7ccd349384a9a2084e787aafc1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >> From: Alan D. Brunelle <alan.brunelle@hp.com>
> >> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:32:36 -0400
> >> Subject: [PATCH] Changed blk trace msgs to directly use relay buffer
> >>
> >> Allows for SMP-usage without corruption, and removes an extra copy at
> >> the expense of copying extra bytes. Reduced message size from 1024 to 128.
> >
> > Or, alternatively, something like the below. Then we don't
> > unconditionally reserve and copy 128 bytes for each message, at the
> > cost 128 bytes per-cpu per trace.
>
> I looked into something like this, but thought the added complexity
> wasn't worth it. Besides the extra per-cpu stuff, you also have an
> extra memcopy involved - in my patch you print directly into the relay
> buffer. I figure that /if/ copying (128-msg_size) extra bytes is too
> much, one could always shrink the 128 down further. [I would think 64
> bytes is probably ok.]
>
> I'd bet that the reduced complexity, and skipping the extra memcopy
> more than offsets having to copy a few extra bytes...
The complexity is the same imho, both versions are fairly trivial.
I wasn't out to optimize this in a memory copy sense. To me the most
precious resource is the data stream to the app, and 128 bytes
is probably 6 times larger than the normal message would be. With
the actual trace structure, we are down to about 3 times the byte
size.
So it was just an idea, I don't care much either way. With 128 bytes,
we could just put the buffer on the stack (and still do the copy to
the relay buffer). The per-cpu buffers has the advantage that we
could grow the size easily if we wanted to.
So, given everything, which do you prefer?
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-28 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-27 14:36 [PATCH] Changed blk trace msgs to directly use relay buffer Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-27 14:36 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-28 12:13 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-28 12:13 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-28 12:26 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-28 12:26 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-28 13:00 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-05-28 13:00 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-28 13:22 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-28 13:22 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-05-28 13:28 ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-28 13:28 ` Jens Axboe
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