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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: jdike@addtoit.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, dhazelton@enter.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH 1/6] UML - Deal with host time going backwards
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:07:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080603130709.fcf6a751.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wxmfg99.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix>

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:52:18 +0100
Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk> wrote:

> On 3 Jun 2008, Daniel Hazelton said:
> 
> > On Tuesday 03 June 2008 03:32:11 pm Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0400
> >>
> >> Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com> wrote:
> >> > Protection against the host's time going backwards - keep track of the
> >> > time at the last tick and if it's greater than the current time, keep
> >> > time stopped until the host catches up.
> >>
> >> Strange.  What would cause the host's time (or at least UML's perception
> >> of it) to go backwards?
> >
> > A wild guess would be that the UML process is running "fast" at some point and 
> > its expectation of the host's time is skewed forward because of that.
> 
> Quite so. Simply running ntp on the host (in slew-only mode, no less!) 
> can cause this.
> 
> > Another possibility is that the hosts clock got reset between the times UML 
> > has checked it and the correction was a negative one.
> 
> That too.
> 

So if I change the host's time by an hour, the time will not advance at all
on the guest for the next hour? Sounds suboptimal :)

I suppose the guest should be running an ntp client synced to something
sane anyway?

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: dhazelton@enter.net, jdike@addtoit.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] UML - Deal with host time going backwards
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:07:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080603130709.fcf6a751.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wxmfg99.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix>

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:52:18 +0100
Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk> wrote:

> On 3 Jun 2008, Daniel Hazelton said:
> 
> > On Tuesday 03 June 2008 03:32:11 pm Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:02:35 -0400
> >>
> >> Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com> wrote:
> >> > Protection against the host's time going backwards - keep track of the
> >> > time at the last tick and if it's greater than the current time, keep
> >> > time stopped until the host catches up.
> >>
> >> Strange.  What would cause the host's time (or at least UML's perception
> >> of it) to go backwards?
> >
> > A wild guess would be that the UML process is running "fast" at some point and 
> > its expectation of the host's time is skewed forward because of that.
> 
> Quite so. Simply running ntp on the host (in slew-only mode, no less!) 
> can cause this.
> 
> > Another possibility is that the hosts clock got reset between the times UML 
> > has checked it and the correction was a negative one.
> 
> That too.
> 

So if I change the host's time by an hour, the time will not advance at all
on the guest for the next hour? Sounds suboptimal :)

I suppose the guest should be running an ntp client synced to something
sane anyway?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-03 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-03 19:02 [uml-devel] [PATCH 1/6] UML - Deal with host time going backwards Jeff Dike
2008-06-03 19:02 ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-03 19:32 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Morton
2008-06-03 19:32   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-03 19:43   ` [uml-devel] " Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-03 19:43     ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-03 19:52     ` [uml-devel] " Nix
2008-06-03 19:52       ` Nix
2008-06-03 20:07       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-06-03 20:07         ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-03 20:37         ` [uml-devel] " Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-03 20:37           ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-03 21:00         ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-06-03 21:00           ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-04  1:50           ` [uml-devel] " Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-04  1:50             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-04  3:15             ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-06-04  3:15               ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-04  5:12             ` [uml-devel] " Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-04  5:12               ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-06-04 14:31           ` [uml-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 14:31             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 19:37             ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-06-04 19:37               ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-04 20:05               ` [uml-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-04 20:05                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-05 15:30                 ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-06-05 15:30                   ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-05 18:14                   ` [uml-devel] " Nix
2008-06-05 18:14                     ` Nix
2008-06-05 19:47                     ` [uml-devel] " Jeff Dike
2008-06-05 19:47                       ` Jeff Dike
2008-06-05 21:41                       ` [uml-devel] " Nix
2008-06-05 21:41                         ` Nix
2008-06-05 18:19                   ` [uml-devel] " Nix
2008-06-05 18:19                     ` Nix
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-03 19:59 [uml-devel] " devzero

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