From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: clameter@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lee.schermerhorn@hp.com, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, eric.whitney@hp.com,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:33:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080610143334.c53d7d8a.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610153702.4019e042@cuia.bos.redhat.com>
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:37:02 -0400
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
> Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > > And it will take longer to get those problems sorted out if 32-bt
> > > machines aren't even compiing the new code in.
> >
> > The problem is going to be less if we dependedn on
> > CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED instead of 64 bit. This means that only certain
> > 32bit NUMA/sparsemem configs cannot do this due to lack of page flags.
> >
> > I did the pageflags rework in part because of Rik's project.
>
> I think your pageflags work freed up a number of bits on 32
> bit systems, unless someone compiles a 32 bit system with
> support for 4 memory zones (2 bits ZONE_SHIFT) and 64 NUMA
> nodes (6 bits NODE_SHIFT), in which case we should still
> have 24 bits for flags.
>
> Of course, having 64 NUMA nodes and a ZONE_SHIFT of 2 on
> a 32 bit system is probably total insanity already. I
> suspect very few people compile 32 bit with NUMA at all,
> except if it is an architecture that uses DISCONTIGMEM
> instead of zones, in which case ZONE_SHIFT is 0, which
> will free up space too :)
Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and kill i386 NUMA support. afaik
it's just NUMAQ and a 2-node NUMAish machine which IBM made (as400?)
arch/sh uses NUMA for 32-bit, I believe. But I don't know what its
maximum node count is. The default for sh NODES_SHIFT is 3.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: clameter@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lee.schermerhorn@hp.com, kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, eric.whitney@hp.com,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:33:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080610143334.c53d7d8a.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610153702.4019e042@cuia.bos.redhat.com>
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:37:02 -0400
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:17:23 -0700 (PDT)
> Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > > And it will take longer to get those problems sorted out if 32-bt
> > > machines aren't even compiing the new code in.
> >
> > The problem is going to be less if we dependedn on
> > CONFIG_PAGEFLAGS_EXTENDED instead of 64 bit. This means that only certain
> > 32bit NUMA/sparsemem configs cannot do this due to lack of page flags.
> >
> > I did the pageflags rework in part because of Rik's project.
>
> I think your pageflags work freed up a number of bits on 32
> bit systems, unless someone compiles a 32 bit system with
> support for 4 memory zones (2 bits ZONE_SHIFT) and 64 NUMA
> nodes (6 bits NODE_SHIFT), in which case we should still
> have 24 bits for flags.
>
> Of course, having 64 NUMA nodes and a ZONE_SHIFT of 2 on
> a 32 bit system is probably total insanity already. I
> suspect very few people compile 32 bit with NUMA at all,
> except if it is an architecture that uses DISCONTIGMEM
> instead of zones, in which case ZONE_SHIFT is 0, which
> will free up space too :)
Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and kill i386 NUMA support. afaik
it's just NUMAQ and a 2-node NUMAish machine which IBM made (as400?)
arch/sh uses NUMA for 32-bit, I believe. But I don't know what its
maximum node count is. The default for sh NODES_SHIFT is 3.
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2008-06-06 20:28 [PATCH -mm 00/25] VM pageout scalability improvements (V10) Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 01/25] move isolate_lru_page() to vmscan.c Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 02/25] Use an indexed array for LRU variables Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 5:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-07 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 11:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-07 18:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 03/25] use an array for the LRU pagevecs Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 04/25] free swap space on swap-in/activation Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 19:56 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 2:14 ` MinChan Kim
2008-06-09 2:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 13:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 2:30 ` MinChan Kim
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 05/25] define page_file_cache() function Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 23:38 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 06/25] split LRU lists into anon & file sets Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 1:22 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 07/25] second chance replacement for anonymous pages Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 6:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-07 6:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 15:04 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 08/25] add some sanity checks to get_scan_ratio Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 15:11 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 09/25] fix pagecache reclaim referenced bit check Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 1:08 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 10/25] add newly swapped in pages to the inactive list Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 11/25] more aggressively use lumpy reclaim Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 12/25] pageflag helpers for configed-out flags Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 21:32 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 21:43 ` Ray Lee
2008-06-08 21:43 ` Ray Lee
2008-06-08 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 23:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 6:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 6:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 13:44 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 13:44 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 2:58 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 2:58 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-09 5:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-09 5:44 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-10 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-10 19:37 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 19:37 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:33 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-06-10 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-10 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-10 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-10 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-10 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-11 5:09 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 5:09 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 6:16 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-11 6:16 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-11 6:29 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 6:29 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-11 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 14:09 ` Removing node flags from page->flags was Re: [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure II Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 14:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 19:03 ` [PATCH -mm 13/25] Noreclaim LRU Infrastructure Andy Whitcroft
2008-06-11 19:03 ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-06-11 20:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 20:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-11 23:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-11 23:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-08 22:03 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 22:03 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-08 21:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-08 21:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 20:09 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 20:09 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 14/25] Noreclaim LRU Page Statistics Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 15/25] Ramfs and Ram Disk pages are non-reclaimable Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-08 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-06-08 4:32 ` Greg KH
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 16/25] SHM_LOCKED " Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 5:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:22 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 17/25] Mlocked Pages " Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-07 1:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 1:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07 5:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-07 5:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-06-10 3:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 3:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 12:50 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 12:50 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 21:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 21:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-10 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-11 16:01 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-11 16:01 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-10 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-10 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-11 15:29 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-11 15:29 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-11 1:00 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-11 1:00 ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 18/25] Downgrade mmap sem while populating mlocked regions Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 19/25] Handle mlocked pages during map, remap, unmap Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 20/25] Mlocked Pages statistics Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` [PATCH -mm 21/25] Cull non-reclaimable pages in fault path Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:28 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel, Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 22/25] Noreclaim and Mlocked pages vm events Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 23/25] Noreclaim LRU scan sysctl Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:29 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel, Lee Schermerhorn
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 24/25] Mlocked Pages: count attempts to free mlocked page Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:29 ` [PATCH -mm 25/25] Noreclaim LRU and Mlocked Pages Documentation Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 20:29 ` Rik van Riel, Rik van Riel
2008-06-06 21:02 ` [PATCH -mm 00/25] VM pageout scalability improvements (V10) Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 21:08 ` Rik van Riel
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