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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com, Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:11:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080630061149.GA352@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806300122.48204.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:22:47AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > Actually, I believe requirements are same.
> > > 
> > > 'don't do i/o in dangerous period'.
> > > 
> > > swsusp will just do sync() before entering dangerous period. That
> > > provides consistent-enough state...
> > 
> > As I've said many times before - if the requirement is "don't do
> > I/O" then you have to freeze the filesystem. In no way does 'sync'
> > prevent filesystems from doing I/O.....
> 
> Well, it seems we can handle this on the block layer level, by temporarily
> replacing the elevator with something that will selectively prevent fs I/O
> from reaching the layers below it.
> 
> I talked with Jens about it on a very general level, but it seems doable at
> first sight.

Why would you hack the blok layer when we already have a perfectly fine
facility to archive what you want?  freeze_bdev is there exactly for the
purpose to make the filesystem consistant on disk and then freeze all
I/O.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-22  3:54 freeze vs freezer Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-23 23:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 18:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-26 21:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 21:17   ` David Chinner
2007-11-26 21:53     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27  5:38       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-11-27 17:40         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 20:33           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:01             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 22:49               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-27 23:14                 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-02 16:02             ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-02 21:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-02 22:04                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-03  9:19                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03  9:47                     ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03  9:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 11:15                         ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03 22:06                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-04 20:54                             ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-05  1:38                               ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-05 21:18                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-05 23:01                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 22:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-23  7:16             ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-23 14:00               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-06-24  8:08                 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-06-26 15:09                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-29 22:12                     ` [xfs-masters] " Dave Chinner
2008-06-29 23:22                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30  6:11                         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-06-30 20:34                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 19:43                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-30  6:29                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30  6:37                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 12:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 21:00                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30 22:21                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:38                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01  6:38                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 14:35                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01 15:05                                         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 15:17                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 21:15                                           ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:46                                             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 21:12                                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:21                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01  8:59                             ` Pavel Machek

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