From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com
Cc: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [xfs-masters] Re: freeze vs freezer
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:29:56 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080630062956.GN29319@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806300122.48204.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:22:47AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, 30 of June 2008, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 05:09:10PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > > Is this the same thing the per-device IO-queue-freeze patches for
> > > > >HDAPS also
> > > > > need to do? If so, you may want to talk to Elias Oltmanns
> > > > > <eo@nebensachen.de> about it. Added to CC.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the heads up Henrique. Even though these issues seem to be
> > > > related up to a certain degree, there probably are some important
> > > > differences. When suspending a system, the emphasis is on leaving the
> > > > system in a consistent state (think of journalled file systems), whereas
> > > > disk shock protection is mainly concerned with stopping I/O as soon as
> > > > possible. As yet, I cannot possibly say to what extend these two
> > > > concepts can be reconciled in the sense of sharing some common code.
> > >
> > > Actually, I believe requirements are same.
> > >
> > > 'don't do i/o in dangerous period'.
> > >
> > > swsusp will just do sync() before entering dangerous period. That
> > > provides consistent-enough state...
> >
> > As I've said many times before - if the requirement is "don't do
> > I/O" then you have to freeze the filesystem. In no way does 'sync'
> > prevent filesystems from doing I/O.....
>
> Well, it seems we can handle this on the block layer level, by temporarily
> replacing the elevator with something that will selectively prevent fs I/O
> from reaching the layers below it.
Why? What part of freeze_bdev() doesn't work for you?
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-30 6:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-22 3:54 freeze vs freezer Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-23 23:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 18:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-26 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 21:17 ` David Chinner
2007-11-26 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 5:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-11-27 17:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 20:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 22:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-27 23:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-02 16:02 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-02 21:30 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-02 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-03 9:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 9:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03 9:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 11:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03 22:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-04 20:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-05 1:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-05 21:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-05 23:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-23 7:16 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-23 14:00 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-06-24 8:08 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-06-26 15:09 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-29 22:12 ` [xfs-masters] " Dave Chinner
2008-06-29 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30 6:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-06-30 20:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 19:43 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-30 6:29 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2008-06-30 6:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 12:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30 22:21 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01 6:38 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 14:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01 15:05 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 21:15 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:46 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 21:12 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01 8:59 ` Pavel Machek
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