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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stoyan Gaydarov <stoyboyker@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:24:44 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080715142444.GA7121@asus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807141914280.3017@woody.linux-foundation.org>

[Linus Torvalds - Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 07:22:04PM -0700]
| 
| 
| On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Stoyan Gaydarov wrote:
| > 
| > Second I wanted to talk about the linux 2.7.x kernel, whats in the
| > making or maybe even not started
| 
| Nothing.
| 
| I'm not going back to the old model. The new model is so much better that 
| it's not even worth entertaining as a theory to go back.
| 
| That said, I _am_ considering changing just the numbering. Not to go back 
| to the old model, but because a constantly increasing minor number leads 
| to big numbers. I'm not all that thrilled with "26" as a number: it's hard 
| to remember.
| 
| So I would not dismiss (and have been thinking about starting) talk about 
| a simple numbering reset (perhaps yearly), but the old model of 3-year 
| developement trees is simply not coming back as far as I'm concerned.
| 
| In fact, I think the time-based releases (ie the "2 weeks of merge window 
| until -rc1, followed by roughly two months of stabilization") has been so 
| successful that I'd prefer to skip the version numbering model too. We 
| don't do releases based on "features" any more, so why should we do 
| version _numbering_ based on "features"?
| 
| For example, I don't see any individual feature that would merit a jump 
| from 2.x to 3.x or even from 2.6.x to 2.8.x. So maybe those version jumps 
| should be done by a time-based model too - matching how we actually do 
| releases anyway.
| 
| So if the version were to be date-based, instead of releasing 2.6.26, 
| maybe we could have 2008.7 instead. Or just increment the major version 
| every decade, the middle version every year, and the minor version every 
| time we make a release. Whatever.
| 
| But three-year development trees with a concurrent stable tree? Nope. Not 
| going to happen.
| 
| 		Linus
| 

Hi to all! Since I've been Cc'ed :) I think I'm not the right person
to be asked about numbering scheme (and since I'm not that long in
kernel) BUT actually I think there is only one question - it's not
about how to number the kernel but rather what we trying to say by
numbering scheme. Some areas should be distinguished:

	- development/stable team
	- distros
	- regular users

Most developers work with git trees and rather carries about sha1 then
a version number :) So eventually numbering scheme is not that important
for developers by its own.

Distros - well, i think distros use they own scheme anyway so they don't
really care about kernel versioning scheme (Gentoo-2008, Fedora-9, Ubuntu-8.04...)

So we have the quite large group of people which should be considered for
convenient versioning scheme - _regular users_. Lets say I'm a regular user -
the most convenient scheme for me would be YYYY.r.s i think since it tells
me - this kernel is fresh enough to be used on my shining laptop, and maybe
it even supports all hardware I have! And at least it looks good -

	Linux-2008.0.0

but personally i don't really care that much :)

		- Cyrill -

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-15 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15  2:10 From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7? Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15  2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  2:31   ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15  2:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15  3:55       ` david
2008-07-15  5:31         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15  6:40           ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-15  7:23           ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15  7:49       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 17:25         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 19:56           ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-17 20:21             ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-19  8:00               ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19  8:52                 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-19 20:49                   ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 20:56                     ` david
2008-07-19 21:56                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-20  8:34                     ` Rene Herman
2008-07-20 14:53                       ` Stefanos Harhalakis
2008-07-19 19:30                 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-19 21:16                   ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 23:10                     ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-15  8:29       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-07-15 12:41       ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-07-15 13:18         ` Alberto Gonzalez
2008-07-15 18:06       ` Charles grey wolf Banas
2008-07-15 20:43       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-16  7:53         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-16  7:57           ` Rene Herman
2008-07-17 22:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-15 10:10   ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-15 11:31     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-15 15:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 15:27     ` Parag Warudkar
2008-07-15 15:32       ` Alan Cox
2008-07-18  9:02         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-16 21:11     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-15 12:38   ` Alan Cox
2008-07-15 14:07   ` Byron Stanoszek
2008-07-16 21:14     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17  0:03       ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-17 12:38         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17 20:02           ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-15 14:24   ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2008-07-15 16:36     ` Tobias Brox
2008-07-15 18:04   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-16  4:22     ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16  6:55       ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-16  7:17         ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16  7:30         ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16  9:34       ` Peter T. Breuer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-17 22:05 Alastair Stevens
2008-07-17 22:40 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-18  8:23   ` Peter T. Breuer

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