From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Parag Warudkar <parag.warudkar@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7?
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:02:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iqv3sgyp.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080715163205.5eddba46@the-village.bc.nu> (Alan Cox's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:32:05 +0100")
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC)
> Parag Warudkar <parag.warudkar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andi Kleen <andi <at> firstfloor.org> writes:
>>
>>
>> > Or you could just do it like emacs or Solaris and simply use a single number.
>>
>> No - because then those handful of Solaris supporters will get one more 'proof'
>> in support of their claims of Linux copying Solaris - first SystemTap copying
>> DTrace and now version numbers. See how we stand a risk of ending up convinced
>> we do not innovate?
>
> "Support" - dtrace is based on the IBM work it seems, and the IBM work
> predates Solaris dtrace by a long time, so actually you could argue
> Solaris copied Linux but shipped first ;)
Actually SLES9 shipped with IBM dprobes[1] long before Solaris dtrace even
existed (and OS/2 did long before that). Back then the interest in it
was about zero though, which made SLES10 drop it again.
I think I was one of the very few users. Admittedly the early RPN
probes were also not particularly user friendly, but they worked.
I use this always as an example that even sophisticated users
like system administrators and kernel hackers are somewhat marketing driven.
-Andi
[1] which BTW already supported user space probes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-18 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-15 2:10 From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7? Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 2:31 ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 2:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 3:55 ` david
2008-07-15 5:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-07-15 6:40 ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-15 7:23 ` Stoyan Gaydarov
2008-07-15 7:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 17:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-17 19:56 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-17 20:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-19 8:00 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 8:52 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-19 20:49 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 20:56 ` david
2008-07-19 21:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-20 8:34 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-20 14:53 ` Stefanos Harhalakis
2008-07-19 19:30 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-19 21:16 ` Craig Milo Rogers
2008-07-19 23:10 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-15 8:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-07-15 12:41 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-07-15 13:18 ` Alberto Gonzalez
2008-07-15 18:06 ` Charles grey wolf Banas
2008-07-15 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-16 7:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-16 7:57 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-17 22:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-15 10:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-15 11:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-15 15:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-15 15:27 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-07-15 15:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-18 9:02 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-07-16 21:11 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-15 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-15 14:07 ` Byron Stanoszek
2008-07-16 21:14 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17 0:03 ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-17 12:38 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-17 20:02 ` Alex Chiang
2008-07-15 14:24 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-07-15 16:36 ` Tobias Brox
2008-07-15 18:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-16 4:22 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 6:55 ` Rafael C. de Almeida
2008-07-16 7:17 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 7:30 ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16 9:34 ` Peter T. Breuer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-17 22:05 Alastair Stevens
2008-07-17 22:40 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-07-18 8:23 ` Peter T. Breuer
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