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From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Next release?
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:06:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080719150624.GD23778@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807160132.18470.okuji@enbug.org>

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:32:18AM +0200, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 July 2008 01:21:57 Pavel Roskin wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 01:15 +0200, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> > > OK. Then how do you install GRUB into (hd1) in a development machine,
> > > which is (hd0) in a booting machine? When GRUB may not correctly
> > > determine BIOS drives, do you want to just give up?
> >
> > The boot drive can be determined at boot.
> >
> > Granted, there are buggy BIOSes, but we handle it already.  All we need
> > is to encode into the bootloader that it was installed on a hard drive
> > (actually, not on a floppy, real or emulated), and the bootloader would
> > use 0x80 rather than the value from BIOS.
> >
> > We don't need specific drive numbers like 0x81.  We need one bit of
> > information, and we can figure it out at the install time.
> 
> If a boot drive is the same as a root drive, you are right. Otherwise we need 
> to do so.
> 
> I think we have seen tons of examples with GRUB Legacy which may not be solved 
> automatically in all cases. If one digs into the archive of bug-grub, I guess 
> several cases would be found easily. With GRUB 2, we can avoid embedding BIOS 
> drive numbers in many cases, using UUIDs or labels or files. But this does 
> not always work, so I am afraid that we need to support device.map, even if 
> it is an evil necessity.

Which cases are there that can't be fixed by using UUIDs?

-- 
Robert Millan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-19 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-14 13:03 Next release? Pavel Roskin
2008-07-14 16:55 ` Christian Franke
2008-07-14 20:27   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-15  5:40     ` Christian Franke
2008-07-20 21:10     ` Christian Franke
2008-07-15 13:49   ` Robert Millan
2008-07-15 15:07     ` Patrick Georgi
2008-07-15 18:39       ` Christian Franke
2008-07-15 18:32     ` Christian Franke
2008-07-15 21:04 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2008-07-15 22:31   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-15 23:15     ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2008-07-15 23:21       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-15 23:32         ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2008-07-15 23:52           ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-16 14:11             ` Colin D Bennett
2008-07-16 14:17               ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 16:17                 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-16 16:28                   ` Javier Martín
2008-07-16 16:08               ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-19 15:14                 ` device.map (Re: Next release?) Robert Millan
2008-07-21 21:26                   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-22 21:36                     ` Robert Millan
2008-07-22 21:57                       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-22 22:08                         ` Robert Millan
2008-07-22 22:46                           ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-19 15:06           ` Robert Millan [this message]
2008-07-19 20:16             ` Next release? Yoshinori K. Okuji
2008-07-19 20:59               ` Robert Millan
2008-07-21 20:48               ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-22 21:37                 ` Robert Millan
2008-07-22 22:01                   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-22 22:09                     ` Robert Millan
2008-07-22 22:41                       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-24 17:02 ` Marco Gerards
2008-07-24 17:18   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-07-24 21:47     ` Christian Franke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-16  0:22 chaac

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