From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Bernhard Fischer <rep.dot.nop@gmail.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
michael@free-electrons.com, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
bcrl@kvack.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:26:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080805182607.GA28513@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080805181536.GH22895@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi>
Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:42:22AM +0200, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 01:12:19PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > >On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:09:29PM +0200, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:27:04AM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> > >> >This patchs adds the CONFIG_AIO option which allows to remove support
> > >> >for asynchronous I/O operations, that are not necessarly used by
> > >> >applications, particularly on embedded devices. As this is a
> > >> >size-reduction option, it depends on CONFIG_EMBEDDED. It allows to
> > >> >save ~7 kilobytes of kernel code/data:
> > >>
> > >> Shouldn't this also make sure not to install aio_abi.h or at least an
> > >> empty aio_abi.h?
> > >
> > >The userspace headers are independent of any kernel configuration
> > >(except for the architecture).
> >
> > I beg to disagree:
> > internals as exposed by e.g. aio_abi.h are impl dependent. Noone except
> > the impl and it's users are interrested in it.
> >...
>
> That's utter bullshit.
>
> The contents of aio_abi.h is a kernel<->userspace ABI that mustn't ever
> change. [1]
Case in point:
I want to be able to compile an application for embedded Linux which
*can use* Linux-AIO, but can also run on a kernel which has Linux-AIO
removed by this patch.
I still want to compile the application with that capability, in case
it's run on another kernel with it enabled.
I shouldn't have to have a separate, special kernel with all options
enabled, just to compile applications that run on multiple kernels and
use run-time features when available.
Just like all the other kernel<->userspace interfaces, the header
files (including their presence) shouldn't depend on kernel
configuration at all.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-05 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-31 9:27 [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 9:27 ` [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:09 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31 10:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 22:42 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31 22:42 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-08-05 18:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-05 18:26 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-08-05 18:36 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31 9:27 ` [patch 2/4] Configure out file locking features Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 13:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 14:20 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 14:20 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 14:20 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 15:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 15:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:57 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 16:57 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 17:32 ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:12 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-01 7:28 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 20:37 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-02 16:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 13:52 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 13:52 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:24 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 18:24 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 18:24 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 18:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:54 ` Matt Mackall
2008-08-04 18:54 ` Matt Mackall
2008-08-04 19:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 19:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 19:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:32 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 22:32 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-06 13:12 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-06 13:12 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-07 22:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-07 22:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31 9:27 ` [patch 3/4] Configure out ethtool support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:40 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-07-31 10:49 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:54 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:57 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:51 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:33 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:50 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 15:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:35 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:35 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 9:27 ` [patch 4/4] Configure out IGMP support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-01 19:41 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-04 12:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 12:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 12:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-04 12:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-04 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-04 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 9:40 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices David Miller
2008-07-31 9:51 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 9:55 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 9:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:02 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:15 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:25 ` David Miller
2008-07-31 17:59 ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:50 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features Ulrich Teichert
2008-07-31 18:50 ` Ulrich Teichert
2008-07-31 19:46 ` Josh Boyer
2008-07-31 19:55 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 7:17 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-08-01 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 19:47 ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 16:42 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Tim Bird
2008-07-31 17:20 ` Tim Bird
[not found] <20080729154520.728594017@free-electrons.com>
2008-07-29 15:45 ` [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support Thomas Petazzoni
[not found] ` <20080729154747.574989775@free-electrons.com>
2008-07-29 16:27 ` Matt Mackall
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