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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:39:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808090039.20289.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1218234411.19082.58.camel@nimitz>

On Saturday 09 August 2008, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 00:13 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> > Maybe you can invert the logic and let the new syscalls create a file
> > descriptor, and then have user space read or splice the checkpoint
> > data from it, and restore it by writing to the file descriptor.
> > It's probably easy to do using anon_inode_getfd() and would solve this
> > problem, but at the same time make checkpointing the current thread
> > hard if not impossible.
> 
> Yeah, it does seem kinda backwards.  But, instead of even having to
> worry about the anon_inode stuff, why don't we just put it in a fs like
> everything else?  checkpointfs!

Well, anon_inodes are really easy to use and have replaced some of the
simple non-mountable file systems in the kernel.

checkpointfs sounds interesting and I guess in a plan9 world of fairies
and fantasy, you should be able to create a checkpoint of your system using
'tar czf - /proc/', but I'm not sure it helps here.

The main problem I see with that would be atomicity: If you want multiple
processes to keep interacting with each other, you need to save them at
the same point in time, which gets harder as you split your interface into
more than a single file descriptor.

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-08 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-07 22:40 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Dave Hansen
2008-08-08  9:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08  9:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <200808081146.54834.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 18:50       ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 18:50     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 20:59       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 20:59       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:17         ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 23:27           ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 23:27           ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]         ` <489CB3CA.6050304-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 22:17           ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14  8:09           ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-08 22:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14  8:09         ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-14 15:16           ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]           ` <48A3E81C.6010008-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-14 15:16             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 22:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 22:26         ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:39           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2008-08-09  0:43             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  6:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09  6:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09 13:39                 ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                 ` <200808090837.07417.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 13:39                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]             ` <200808090039.20289.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09  0:43               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 22:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 15:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 15:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 15:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <20080811150703.GA25930-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 15:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-14  5:53               ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14  5:53             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20080814055301.GH6995-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-14 15:12                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-20 21:40                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 21:40                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-14 15:12               ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]         ` <200808090013.41999.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 22:26           ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 15:22           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 15:22         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20080811152201.GB25930-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 16:53             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 16:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 17:11             ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]             ` <200808111853.13854.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 17:11               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 19:48               ` checkpoint/restart ABI Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 19:48             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 21:47               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 21:47               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 23:14                 ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                   ` <20080811171433.2ce81f28-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 23:23                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 23:23                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                 ` <200808112347.50245.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 23:14                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-21  5:56                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-21  5:56                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-21  8:43                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:43                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                       ` <200808211043.41387.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21 15:43                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                     ` <48AD0379.9030705-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-21  8:43                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-11 21:54               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 21:54               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-11 23:38               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 23:54                 ` Peter Chubb
2008-08-12 14:49                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20080812144905.GA16016-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-28 23:40                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-28 23:40                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87d4kfds5i.wl%peterc-LkDQP0DxSMGxwJ88Py/mJxCuuivNXqWP@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-12 14:49                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-12 15:11                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 15:11                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                 ` <48A0CD86.6030704-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 23:54                   ` Peter Chubb
2008-08-12 14:58                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 14:58                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 16:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-12 16:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-12 16:46                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12 17:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]                         ` <48A1C2B9.9070107-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-20 21:52                           ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 21:52                         ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-12 17:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-20 21:54                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 21:54                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-20 22:11                         ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                         ` <48AC929C.9030901-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-20 22:11                           ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                     ` <48A1BB39.3090108-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-12 16:46                       ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 23:38               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 18:03   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] checkpoint-restart: general infrastructure Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-11 18:38     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-12  3:44       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-12  3:44         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]     ` <20080811120315.4b3ba2c8-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 18:38       ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 18:03   ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-08-18  9:26   ` [Devel] " Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-18  9:26     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2008-08-20 19:10     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]     ` <48A94061.8040206-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-20 19:10       ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] checkpoint/restart: x86 support Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <200808081409.30591.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 20:28       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 20:28         ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 22:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]           ` <200808090029.28286.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 23:04             ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 23:04           ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09  0:38             ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  1:20               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09  2:20                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  2:35                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-09  2:35                   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <489CF0CE.1000603-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09  2:20                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  1:20               ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-10 14:55               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 15:36                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-11 16:07                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 16:07                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]                 ` <489F015E.9080704-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-11 15:36                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-10 14:55               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]             ` <489CD0F9.9060603-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09  0:38               ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-09  6:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-09  6:43             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <489CAC70.7090809-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 22:29           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 12:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] checkpoint/restart: memory management Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 22:40 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 12:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] introduce sys_checkpoint and sys_restore Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <200808081415.19179.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 20:33       ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 20:33         ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 12:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-07 22:40 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] kernel-based checkpoint restart Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08  9:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:06   ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 18:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-08 18:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <200808081125.12706.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-08 18:06     ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-08 19:44     ` Oren Laadan
2008-08-08 19:44       ` Oren Laadan

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