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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com, schamp@sgi.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v3 scalable classic RCU implementation
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:34:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080830143438.GF7107@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48B94BF4.9090103@colorfullife.com>

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 03:32:36PM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>> I just had a fast review. so my comments is nothing but cleanup.
>>
>>           Thanks, Lai.
>>
>> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>   
>>> Hello!
>>>     
>>
>>   
>>> +rcu_start_gp(struct rcu_state *rsp, unsigned long iflg)
>>> +	__releases(rsp->rda[smp_processor_id()]->lock)
>>> +{
>>> +	unsigned long flags = iflg;
>>> +	struct rcu_data *rdp = rsp->rda[smp_processor_id()];
>>> +	struct rcu_node *rnp = rcu_get_root(rsp);
>>> +	struct rcu_node *rnp_cur;
>>> +	struct rcu_node *rnp_end;
>>> +
>>> +	if (!cpu_needs_another_gp(rsp, rdp)) {
>>>   		/*
>>> -		 * Accessing nohz_cpu_mask before incrementing rcp->cur needs a
>>> -		 * Barrier  Otherwise it can cause tickless idle CPUs to be
>>> -		 * included in rcp->cpumask, which will extend graceperiods
>>> -		 * unnecessarily.
>>> +		 * Either there is no need to detect any more grace periods
>>> +		 * at the moment, or we are already in the process of
>>> +		 * detecting one.  Either way, we should not start a new
>>> +		 * RCU grace period, so drop the lock and return.
>>>  		 */
>>> -		smp_mb();
>>> -		cpus_andnot(rcp->cpumask, cpu_online_map, nohz_cpu_mask);
>>> +		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rnp->lock, flags);
>>> +		return;
>>> +	}
>>> +
>>> +	/* Advance to a new grace period and initialize state. */
>>> +
>>> +	rsp->gpnum++;
>>> +	rsp->signaled = RCU_SIGNAL_INIT;
>>> +	rsp->jiffies_force_qs = jiffies + RCU_JIFFIES_TILL_FORCE_QS;
>>> +	record_gp_stall_check_time();
>>> +	dyntick_save_completed(rsp, rsp->completed - 1);
>>> +	note_new_gpnum(rsp, rdp);
>>> +
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Because we are first, we know that all our callbacks will
>>> +	 * be covered by this upcoming grace period, even the ones
>>> +	 * that were registered arbitrarily recently.
>>> +	 */
>>> +
>>> +	rcu_next_callbacks_are_ready(rdp);
>>> +	rdp->nxttail[RCU_WAIT_TAIL] = rdp->nxttail[RCU_NEXT_TAIL];
>>>  -		rcp->signaled = 0;
>>> +	/* Special-case the common single-level case. */
>>> +
>>> +	if (NUM_RCU_NODES == 1) {
>>> +		rnp->qsmask = rnp->qsmaskinit;
>>>     
>>
>> I tried a mask like qsmaskinit before. The system came to deadlock
>> when I did on/offline cpus.
>> I didn't find out the whys for I bethought of these two problem:
>>
>> problem 1:
>> ----race condition 1:
>> <cpu_down>
>> synchronize_rcu <called from offline handler in other subsystem>
>> rcu_offline_cpu
>>
>>
>> -----race condition 2:
>> rcu_online_cpu
>> synchronize_rcu <called from online handler in other subsystem>
>> <cpu_up>
>>
>> in these two condition, synchronize_rcu isblocked for ever for
>> synchronize_rcu have to wait a cpu in rnp->qsmask, but this
>> cpu don't run.
>>
>>   
> Can we disallow synchronize_rcu() from the cpu notifiers? Are there any 
> users that do a synchronize_rcu() from within the notifiers?
> I don't see any other solution.

I made force_quiescent_state() check for offline CPUs.  (Well, actually
it is rcu_implicit_offline_qs(), which is indirectly called from
force_quiescent_state().

> Something like qsmaskinit is needed - always enumerating all cpus just 
> doesn't scale.

Agreed!!!

> Perhaps it's possible to rely on CPU_DYING, but I haven't figured out yet 
> how to handle read-side critical sections in CPU_DYING handlers.
> Interrupts after CPU_DYING could be handled by rcu_irq_enter(), 
> rcu_irq_exit() [yes, they exist on x86: the arch code enables the local 
> interrupts in order to process the currently queued interrupts]

My feeling is that CPU online/offline will be quite rare, so it should
be OK to clean up after the races in force_quiescent_state(), which in
this version is called every three ticks in a given grace period.

Yes, I did worry about the possibility of all CPUs being in dyntick-idle
mode, and the solution for that is (1) don't let a CPU that has RCU
callbacks pending go into dyntick-idle mode via rcu_needs_cpu() and
(2) don't let a grace period start unless there is at least one callback
that is not yet in the done state.  But no, I am not certain that I have
gotten this completely correct yet.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 23:43 [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22  4:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 13:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 17:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 18:16       ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23 16:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-24  2:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 23:29 ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23  1:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 22:02     ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-26 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27  0:38         ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 18:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27 20:23             ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 20:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 10:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-25 15:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-27 18:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24  8:08 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 16:32   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24 18:25     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 21:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25  0:07 ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  0:49   ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 14:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 15:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 19:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02 13:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-02 13:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:58     ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-08-30 13:32       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-30 14:34         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-08-31 10:58           ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 17:45               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 18:18                   ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 19:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-01  9:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02  1:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02  6:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 15:29     ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 19:33       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-05 23:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 23:52           ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-06  4:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-06 16:37       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 17:25         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-07 10:18       ` [RFC, PATCH] Add a CPU_STARTING notifier (was: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation) Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 11:07         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-07 19:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-15 16:02       ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 16:52         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 17:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 17:48             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 18:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-21 11:09               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-21 21:14                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-23 23:53         ` [PATCH, RFC] v6 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-10 16:09           ` [PATCH, RFC] v7 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-12 15:52             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-12 22:46               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-13 18:03                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15  1:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-15  8:13                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15 15:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 18:41                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-22 21:02                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 21:24                             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 16:45                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-27 19:48                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 23:52                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28  5:30                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 15:17                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28 17:21                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 17:35                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17  8:34             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:35               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:46                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17 15:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-12-08 18:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-02 20:10             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-03 20:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-05 19:48                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-05 21:27                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-15 23:20             ` [PATCH, RFC] v8 " Paul E. McKenney

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