From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:36:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080904163644.GA28340@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809040920000.3381@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > ah - perhaps a dynamic statistical approach with an estimation of
> > worst-case calibration error (~= standard deviation) and a quality
> > threshold to reach? That could dramatically increase the number of
> > samples while also making it much faster in practice. Nifty!
>
> Oh, no, I'm _much_ more nifty than that!
>
> Instead of being very clever, I have a very _stupid_ algorithm, one
> that has very hardcoded expectations of exactly what it will see. And
> if it doesn't see exactly that, it just fails early.
>
> I'd post the patch, but I really need to actually _test_ it first, and
> I haven't rebooted yet.
ok, will wait with patience :)
i've been using adaptive calibration with great success in user-space,
to run benchmarks on multiple boxes with a variable number of lmbench
iterations. Once the observable statistical properties of the series of
measurements looks valid it stops the test iterations and emits a
result. This both makes things faster (more predictable hw/kernel
executes certain lmbench tests much faster) and it makes the results
more reliable (less noise, better cross-hardware, cross-kernel and
cross-test comparisons). I've got a quality threshold (and a max
iterations threshold) hardcoded as well.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-04 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-04 15:18 [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 1/4] x86: TSC: define the PIT latch value separate Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 2/4] x86: TSC: separate hpet/pmtimer calculation out Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 3/4] x86: TSC: use one set of reference variables Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:18 ` [RFC patch 4/4] x86: TSC make the calibration loop smarter Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 15:36 ` [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 15:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 16:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 16:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-09-04 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:07 ` Alan Cox
2008-09-04 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-04 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 20:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 20:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-04 21:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-05 22:18 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-05 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 22:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-06 20:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07 6:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-06 20:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-06 21:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-06 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 21:38 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 21:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 22:09 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 17:39 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 18:31 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 18:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-04 21:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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