From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: warn: Turn the netdev timeout WARN_ON() into a WARN()
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:45:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080917144558.6ed2e6b8@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48D178FB.80902@garzik.org>
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:39:07 -0400
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
\
>
> ACK, this fixes my objection, thanks
ok
> > If all the networking guys agree that the report
> > has no value for developers because they're all unfixable hardware
> > bugs,
>
> You misunderstand; reporting and tracking these issues have value,
> but the information you are dumping (specifically the backtrace) does
> not.
WARN() is about a lot more than a backtrace, but point taken, see below
>
> I think it would benefit Linux if our bugs announce themselves in a
> standard way, but the backtrace is not a key part of that, and IMO
> should be optional.
I cannot disagree with the "the backtrace is not useful" statement for
this case. I don't even mind making a WARN() variant that doesn't
backtrace; I'll look into that. I don't consider it "2.6.27 urgent"
though; a backtrace is pretty light to do for such an exceptional
slowpath case, and the only real effect is a few lines
in /var/log/messages that are somewhat redundant.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-17 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-09-17 3:27 ` warn: Turn the netdev timeout WARN_ON() into a WARN() Jeff Garzik
2008-09-17 13:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-17 21:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-09-17 21:45 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-09-17 21:53 ` Jeff Garzik
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