From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agk@redhat.com, mbroz@redhat.com,
chris@arachsys.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Fix fsync livelock
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:07:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081005160724.54dd1a27@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810051901190.31780@hs20-bc2-1.build.redhat.com>
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT)
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:
> > are you sure?
> > isn't the right fix to just walk the file pages only once?
>
> It walks the pages only once --- and waits on each on them. But
> because new pages are contantly appearing under it, that "walk only
> once" becomes infinite loop (well, finite, until the whole disk is
> written).
well. fsync() promises that everything that's dirty at the time of the
call will hit the disk. That is not something you can compromise.
The only way out would be is to not allow new dirty during an fsync()...
which is imo even worse.
Submit them all in one go, then wait, should not be TOO bad. Unless a
lot was dirty already, but then you go back to "but it has to go to
disk".
--
Arjan van de Ven Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-09-22 21:10 ` [PATCH] Memory management livelock Mikulas Patocka
2008-09-23 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-23 22:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-09-23 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-23 23:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-09-23 23:46 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-24 18:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-09-24 18:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Mikulas Patocka
2008-09-24 18:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] " Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-02 5:54 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-05 22:11 ` RFC: one-bit mutexes (was: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Memory management livelock) Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-11 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-20 20:14 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-21 1:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-05 22:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] bit mutexes Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-05 22:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] Fix fsync livelock Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-05 22:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-05 23:02 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-05 23:07 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-10-05 23:18 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-05 23:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-06 0:01 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-06 0:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-06 3:30 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-06 4:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-06 13:00 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-06 13:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-06 20:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-08 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-06 2:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-05 22:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] Fix fsync-vs-write misbehavior Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-09 1:12 ` [PATCH] documentation: explain memory barriers Randy Dunlap
2008-10-09 1:17 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-09 1:31 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-09 5:51 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-09 9:58 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-10-09 21:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 17:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 1:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-09 17:35 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 6:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-24 18:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] Memory management livelock Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-03 2:32 ` [PATCH] " Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 2:40 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 2:59 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 3:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 3:47 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 3:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 4:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 4:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 11:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-03 12:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 13:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-03 2:54 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 11:26 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-03 12:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-03 13:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-03 14:50 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-10-03 14:36 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-10-03 15:52 ` application syncing options (was Re: [PATCH] Memory management livelock) david
2008-10-06 0:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-06 0:19 ` david
2008-10-06 3:42 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-07 3:37 ` david
2008-10-07 15:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-10-07 17:16 ` david
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