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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rjw@sisk.pl, s0mbre@tservice.net.ru,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:59:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810292059.37995.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081027183312.GD11494@elte.hu>

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 05:33, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > > The way to get the best possible dbench numbers in CPU-bound dbench
> > > runs, you have to throw away the scheduler completely, and do this
> > > instead:
> > >
> > >  - first execute all requests of client 1
> > >  - then execute all requests of client 2
> > >  ....
> > >  - execute all requests of client N
> >
> > Rubbish. [...]
>
> i've actually implemented that about a decade ago: i've tracked down
> what makes dbench tick, i've implemented the kernel heuristics for it
> to make dbench scale linearly with the number of clients - just to be
> shot down by Linus about my utter rubbish approach ;-)
>
> > [...] If you do that you'll not get enough I/O in parallel to
> > schedule the disk well (not that most of our I/O schedulers are
> > doing the job well, and the vm writeback threads then mess it up and
> > the lack of Arjans ioprio fixes then totally screw you) </rant>
>
> the best dbench results come from systems that have enough RAM to
> cache the full working set, and a filesystem intelligent enough to not
> insert bogus IO serialization cycles (ext3 is not such a filesystem).

You can get good dbench results come from dbench on tmpfs, which
exercises the vm vfs scheduler etc without IO or filesystems.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-29 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 23:17 [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10  5:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-10  8:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10  9:15   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:31     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:25         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 11:55         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-10 11:57           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 22:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-24 23:31               ` David Miller
2008-10-25  4:05                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25  5:15                   ` David Miller
2008-10-25  5:53                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 11:13                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-26  3:55                   ` David Miller
2008-10-26 11:33                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-25  3:37               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25  5:16                 ` David Miller
2008-10-25  5:58                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25  6:53                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25  7:24                       ` David Miller
2008-10-25  7:52                         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25 23:10                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-26  8:46                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26  9:00                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-26  9:11                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26  9:27                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26  9:34                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-26 10:05                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27  2:34                                       ` David Miller
2008-10-27  9:30                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27  9:57                                           ` David Miller
2008-10-26 10:23                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 19:03                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27  9:29                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 10:42                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 11:27                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 11:33                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-10-27 12:06                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 13:42                                           ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-27 14:17                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 18:33                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-27 19:39                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-27 19:48                                             ` David Miller
2008-10-28 10:24                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 10:37                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 10:57                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 11:02                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-28 14:00                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-28 15:22                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-29  9:14                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-29  9:50                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-11-01 12:51                                                       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2008-10-29  9:59                                           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-10-26  9:15                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-25  7:19                     ` David Miller
2008-10-25  7:33                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 17:26                         ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:11                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-27 19:18                             ` Rick Jones
2008-10-27 19:44                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-26 11:29               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-26 12:23                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:15                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-30 18:40                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-30 18:43                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 18:56                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-30 19:01                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31  7:52                       ` David Miller
2008-10-31  9:40                         ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31  9:51                           ` David Miller
2008-10-31 10:42                             ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 10:45                             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:01                               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 11:10                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 11:15                                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-10-31 19:57                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-10-31 20:10                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-31 21:03                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-31 21:18                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-31 23:51                                     ` David Miller
2008-10-31 23:56                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-11-01  0:16                                         ` Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-02  4:40                                           ` David Miller
2008-11-04  2:13                                             ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bonding, net: Move last_rx update into bonding recv logic Jay Vosburgh
2008-11-04  2:17                                               ` David Miller
2008-10-10 10:13 ` [tbench regression fixes]: digging out smelly deadmen Mike Galbraith
2008-10-11 13:13   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-11 14:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-11 18:13       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12  6:02         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-10-12  6:33           ` Mike Galbraith

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